no more mods

1MOREMOD · 10-27-2011, 03:03 PM

im done i quit. well maybe coilovers after next season, really i can quit any time i want to.

orion565 · 10-27-2011, 03:07 PM

BBK?

Also, I was curious, what happens to your sub when you track your car, that thing is moving all over the place? and the weight doesn't bother you?

1MOREMOD · 10-27-2011, 03:11 PM

no i strip the car down for track days and it comes out. had it mounted so i could remove the wires and take it out. i pull out floor mats and rear headrests and interior trim as well. my car is still a pig but every bit helps. trying to avoid a bbk. just did apex gt4 ducts and adding ferodo ds2500 pads and stainless lines and high temp fluid. hoping that will be sufficient but time will tell.

JustMpwrd · 10-27-2011, 03:14 PM

You're done modding.....until the next group buy or sale

1MOREMOD · 10-27-2011, 03:14 PM

i think before i do a bbk and coilovers i will look seriously into a e36m3 or e46m3 full track prepped car.

Grail05 · 10-27-2011, 03:22 PM

hey bro, there some good shit in the for sale thread... check it out... LOL

YOU KNOW YOUR LYING TO YOURSELF RIGHT? you know this shit is like drugs right... its worst...

THE TECH · 10-27-2011, 03:23 PM

BBK!!! It's next on my list...and my car isn't even here yet!

1sikbmr · 10-27-2011, 03:40 PM

who are you fooling? there is never an end

1MOREMOD · 10-27-2011, 03:42 PM

might as well smoke the stockers before you do that. i can buy new pads and rotors 5 times for the cost of a front bbk. with all my upgrades dont think it will be needed. (high temp fluid, challenge stainless lines, GT4 brake ducts, ferodo ds2500 pads)

1MOREMOD · 10-27-2011, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1sikbmr

who are you fooling? there is never an end

trying to fool myself. i am happy with how much progress my car has made in the past few months though. added tons of stuff to make it more track capable.

LarThaL · 10-27-2011, 04:24 PM

I really am modding less and less. My modding days peaked with my '00 Audi S4 ($34,000 in mods) and my '04 350Z ($31,000) in mods. My '07 RS4 had about $16,000 in mods. My '09 Cayenne GTS has about $3000 in mods and my '11 M3 has $260 in mods so far (wheel spacers).

I love modding, but there is absolutely no return on the expense. And as we all know, modding cars can be a bottomless money pit. OEM options on a car will add some value at resale or trade-in, but mods can actually lessen the value as the resale market for a modded car is much less regardless of the quality of the mods. In this sense, it is a double hit financially. If you could get money back on your mods I would still be all over it. Removing the mods, putting the OEM parts back, and trying to sell the mods second hand can be yet more of an expense and a time consuming PITA. No thanks.

I will still mod my cars, but only if they are small or if I really feel the car is glaringly deficient in some aspect. I will also try to option the car from the factory in a way that I need to minimize my mods. That is one of the reasons I ordered the ZCP option, for instance. For $2500, I get a suspension that needs no modding and wheels that I think are absolutely gorgeous. On top of that, the ZCP will likely add a little value at trade-in. There is also the simple reality that for me, the M3 really doesn't need much modding. The exhaust is a little weak and maybe I will add an axle back unit. The car needs wider tires in the rear and I will likely change out the rears to 285/30's, but that is about it.

The OEM's are also offering more and more options in general including factory mods that do add value to the car and do not diminish resale capacity. Look at Porsche's Ceramic brakes for example. At $8000 for a set of four, it is a relative bargain too.

For those that love big ticket modding...go for it. It is definitely fun, certainly is addicting, and may be needed if you are building a serious track car(but that is different matter). But I am done. If I was the type to keep a car for 10 years, it would still be different, but I tend to flip every 4-5 years, and the loss of money is just more than I care to deal with anymore.

SchnellM3 · 10-27-2011, 06:08 PM

This is an addiction that never really stops... Hell even when you think your done something new comes out

808@702 · 10-27-2011, 06:15 PM

Hey VVG, what wheel spacers did you go with, what size and what size are your rims/tires. Thia is something Ive thought about doing.

1MOREMOD · 10-27-2011, 06:17 PM

Shut up, quit being an enabler

LarThaL · 10-27-2011, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808@702

Hey VVG, what wheel spacers did you go with, what size and what size are your rims/tires. Thia is something Ive thought about doing.

Wheels and tires are stock ZCP. Spacers are Turner Motorsports 12.5mm front and rear. Looks tastefully aggressive with no rubbing issues whatsover. People without ZCP having been going with 15-18mm in front and 12-15mm in the rear from what I have seen. The Turner units are very high quality pieces.

AlteredBe4st · 10-27-2011, 07:07 PM

im done i quit. well maybe coilovers after next season, really i can quit any time i want to.

[/QUOTE]

That is what I say to myself over and over and yet I just don't listen. It's an addiction and yes i am an addict as well

.

1MOREMOD · 10-27-2011, 08:04 PM

I know its gotten bad. In the last 3-4 months I've gotten challenge sport, evolve stage 2, turner stud conversion, bmw pedals, challenge stainless lines, high temp brake fluid, ferodo ds2500 pads, Aim SOLO, GT4 brake ducts, and have schroth harness coming.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 10-27-2011, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean05

hey bro, there some good shit in the for sale thread... check it out... LOL

YOU KNOW YOUR LYING TO YOURSELF RIGHT? you know this shit is like drugs right... its worst...

persian54 · 10-27-2011, 10:04 PM

once the mod bug bites you.. there's no going back!

w00tw00t · 10-27-2011, 10:52 PM

aaaahhahahha .. Chris.. oh Chris... you're fooling no one ;-)

1MOREMOD · 10-27-2011, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w00tw00t

aaaahhahahha .. Chris.. oh Chris... you're fooling no one ;-)

No really.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 10-27-2011, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriszeh

No really.

We'll see how long this lasts.

P.S. IND and an Akra EVO Full exhaust...calling your name.

10-27-2011, 03:03 PM	#1
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	no more mods im done i quit. well maybe coilovers after next season, really i can quit any time i want to. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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10-27-2011, 03:07 PM	#2
orion565 Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 205 Posts Drives: 2011 e92 m3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Downtown Houston iTrader: (2)	BBK? Also, I was curious, what happens to your sub when you track your car, that thing is moving all over the place? and the weight doesn't bother you?
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10-27-2011, 03:11 PM	#3
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	no i strip the car down for track days and it comes out. had it mounted so i could remove the wires and take it out. i pull out floor mats and rear headrests and interior trim as well. my car is still a pig but every bit helps. trying to avoid a bbk. just did apex gt4 ducts and adding ferodo ds2500 pads and stainless lines and high temp fluid. hoping that will be sufficient but time will tell. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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10-27-2011, 03:14 PM	#4
JustMpwrd Private First Class 10 Rep 135 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Playa del Rey, California iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW E92 M3 [10.00]	You're done modding.....until the next group buy or sale
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10-27-2011, 03:14 PM	#5
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	i think before i do a bbk and coilovers i will look seriously into a e36m3 or e46m3 full track prepped car. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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10-27-2011, 03:22 PM	#6
Grail05 Putcha ang ganda... 279 Rep 5,441 Posts Drives: 17 F82 M4 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Los Angeles, Brea CA. iTrader: (10)	hey bro, there some good shit in the for sale thread... check it out... LOL YOU KNOW YOUR LYING TO YOURSELF RIGHT? you know this shit is like drugs right... its worst... __________________
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10-27-2011, 03:23 PM	#7
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10-27-2011, 03:40 PM	#8
1sikbmr Brigadier General 145 Rep 3,329 Posts Drives: F80 M3 6MT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New York iTrader: (16)	who are you fooling? there is never an end __________________ F80 ///M3 6MT Avus Blue ZCP
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10-27-2011, 03:42 PM	#9
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	might as well smoke the stockers before you do that. i can buy new pads and rotors 5 times for the cost of a front bbk. with all my upgrades dont think it will be needed. (high temp fluid, challenge stainless lines, GT4 brake ducts, ferodo ds2500 pads) __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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10-27-2011, 04:24 PM	#11
LarThaL Colonel 336 Rep 2,940 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: West Springfield, MA iTrader: (0)	I really am modding less and less. My modding days peaked with my '00 Audi S4 ($34,000 in mods) and my '04 350Z ($31,000) in mods. My '07 RS4 had about $16,000 in mods. My '09 Cayenne GTS has about $3000 in mods and my '11 M3 has $260 in mods so far (wheel spacers). I love modding, but there is absolutely no return on the expense. And as we all know, modding cars can be a bottomless money pit. OEM options on a car will add some value at resale or trade-in, but mods can actually lessen the value as the resale market for a modded car is much less regardless of the quality of the mods. In this sense, it is a double hit financially. If you could get money back on your mods I would still be all over it. Removing the mods, putting the OEM parts back, and trying to sell the mods second hand can be yet more of an expense and a time consuming PITA. No thanks. I will still mod my cars, but only if they are small or if I really feel the car is glaringly deficient in some aspect. I will also try to option the car from the factory in a way that I need to minimize my mods. That is one of the reasons I ordered the ZCP option, for instance. For $2500, I get a suspension that needs no modding and wheels that I think are absolutely gorgeous. On top of that, the ZCP will likely add a little value at trade-in. There is also the simple reality that for me, the M3 really doesn't need much modding. The exhaust is a little weak and maybe I will add an axle back unit. The car needs wider tires in the rear and I will likely change out the rears to 285/30's, but that is about it. The OEM's are also offering more and more options in general including factory mods that do add value to the car and do not diminish resale capacity. Look at Porsche's Ceramic brakes for example. At $8000 for a set of four, it is a relative bargain too. For those that love big ticket modding...go for it. It is definitely fun, certainly is addicting, and may be needed if you are building a serious track car(but that is different matter). But I am done. If I was the type to keep a car for 10 years, it would still be different, but I tend to flip every 4-5 years, and the loss of money is just more than I care to deal with anymore. __________________ **Audi S6 Audi S3 * Porsche Cayman GTS* --Former BMW M3 owner** Last edited by LarThaL; 10-27-2011 at 06:53 PM..
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SchnellM3 Digger 204 Rep 2,619 Posts Drives: 03 E46 M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pa iTrader: (5) Garage List 2003 BMW E46 M3 Tra ... [8.00] 2009 BMW E92 M3 [8.30] 2009 Yamaha R1 (FOR ... [9.50]	This is an addiction that never really stops... Hell even when you think your done something new comes out __________________ 2009 E92 M3 /// Melbourne Red /// Fox Red /// M DKG Full Innotech Exhaust - DINAN Intake - IND Engine Bay Appearance - IND Hand Stitched Boot Covers - and much more....
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808@702 8th BMW, 520th Surfboard 494 Rep 1,215 Posts Drives: My girlfriends crazy! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Las Vegas, Nv. and Honolulu, Hi. and Seattle Wa. iTrader: (0)	Hey VVG, what wheel spacers did you go with, what size and what size are your rims/tires. Thia is something Ive thought about doing.
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10-27-2011, 06:17 PM	#14
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	Shut up, quit being an enabler __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\| Last edited by 1MOREMOD; 10-27-2011 at 10:34 PM..
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AlteredBe4st First Pride 110 Rep 1,557 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Connecticut.. iTrader: (8)	im done i quit. well maybe coilovers after next season, really i can quit any time i want to. [/QUOTE] That is what I say to myself over and over and yet I just don't listen. It's an addiction and yes i am an addict as well.
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1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	I know its gotten bad. In the last 3-4 months I've gotten challenge sport, evolve stage 2, turner stud conversion, bmw pedals, challenge stainless lines, high temp brake fluid, ferodo ds2500 pads, Aim SOLO, GT4 brake ducts, and have schroth harness coming. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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10-27-2011, 10:04 PM	#19
persian54 Lieutenant General 922 Rep 15,818 Posts Drives: M760/G83M4 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The Valley, SoCal iTrader: (298)	once the mod bug bites you.. there's no going back! __________________ From E93 335i to E89 Z4 to E93 M3/E89 Z4 to E350/SL550
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w00tw00t Colonel 408 Rep 2,171 Posts Drives: 2016 MW M4 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (13)	aaaahhahahha .. Chris.. oh Chris... you're fooling no one ;-)
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