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      03-03-2018, 03:59 PM   #1
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Trump says he’ll add a higher tariff (it's 2.5% now) to automobile imports if the EU does anything to retaliate over steel and aluminum import tariffs.

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Trump says he’ll add a tariff to automobile imports if the EU does anything to retaliate over steel and aluminum import tariffs.

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Oh well, BMW will prevail. If USA is a no go, they'll still have market areas such as every other fucking country in the world.
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Oh well, BMW will prevail. If USA is a no go, they'll still have market areas such as every other fucking country in the world.
BMW are in the centre of a shit sandwich. Trump on one side, us leaving the national republic of the EU next year. Squeeky bum time frauline?
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Oh well, BMW will prevail. If USA is a no go, they'll still have market areas such as every other fucking country in the world.
BMW sold roughly 305k vehicles in the US in 2017
If you think they will be fine and "prevail" if they don't succeed in the US market ......
I'd like to know what you've been smoking
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How many BMW, Mercedes, Audi and other European car dealers across the US would be hurt by the cost of their products increasing in price against the competition?
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Oh well, BMW will prevail. If USA is a no go, they'll still have market areas such as every other fucking country in the world.
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BMW are in the centre of a shit sandwich. Trump on one side, us leaving the national republic of the EU next year. Squeeky bum time frauline?
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BMW sold roughly 305k vehicles in the US in 2017
If you think they will be fine and "prevail" if they don't succeed in the US market ......
I'd like to know what you've been smoking
Be some high quality devil's lettuce
Indeed. They would have a VERY difficult time without US sales or even a major dip in US sales.
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The idea is that the tariffs will never be needed because the other side (in this case EU) will come to more favorable terms. And frankly it's long overdue.
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The idea is that the tariffs will never be needed because the other side (in this case EU) will come to more favorable terms. And frankly it's long overdue.
You sir, win the internet today. Congratulations!!

No matter the political party involved, we've been getting hosed.
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All the X3 through X7s are built in the US, of which nearly 70% are exported. I seriously hope we don't get in a trade war. Everyone looses.
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BMW are in the centre of a shit sandwich. Trump on one side, us leaving the national republic of the EU next year. Squeeky bum time frauline?
Tpp is coming along fine, can-EU is going along well, eu- Japan is cooking up. Bmw has factories in the USA but I would not be worrying about the UK or the USA market if I was calling the shots. Africa and Asia are the markets to grow in, especially if the USA is pulling back.

You guys really think USA can screw Canada, the EU and blame it on china when the WTO provides us all the stats? You're big, but the gb was too back in their day.
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The idea is that the tariffs will never be needed because the other side (in this case EU) will come to more favorable terms. And frankly it's long overdue.
Why?
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BMW sold roughly 305k vehicles in the US in 2017
If you think they will be fine and "prevail" if they don't succeed in the US market ......
I'd like to know what you've been smoking
Be some high quality devil's lettuce
I think you're idiots if you think we won't sanction you and since intellectual properties are a huge issue with china, why the fuck would we not bargain with that shit now when usa is causing all these disruptions?


You guys have to realize how trade works. Fast.

And that's just trade. Military alliances moves with trade.
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The historical trade deficit combined with the foreign ownership of US debt is a problem. "Should (foreign) investors in American debt change their investing behavior, the impact would be detrimental to the American economy as the value of the dollar is driven down, U.S. interest rates are forced higher, and economic activity is stifled."

We've had deficits going back to 1975 and it's unsustainable. This is apolitical as both Dems and Rebubs are responsible.
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Tpp is coming along fine, can-EU is going along well, eu- Japan is cooking up. Bmw has factories in the USA but I would not be worrying about the UK or the USA market if I was calling the shots. Africa and Asia are the markets to grow in, especially if the USA is pulling back.

You guys really think USA can screw Canada, the EU and blame it on china when the WTO provides us all the stats? You're big, but the gb was too back in their day.
The US and UK are the second and third largest export markets for BMW. The UK is BMWs highest margin export market.
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I wish we could get back to a time of nominal trade deficits....like 2008.
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The US and UK are the second and third largest export markets for BMW. The UK is BMWs highest margin export market.
Right, this information took me by surprise. I've only been looking in to steel producers for the past three years as an indicator.

You guys know how trade works right?
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Oh boy, we all miss the times before the crash. Things then worked!
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Right, this information took me by surprise. I've only been looking in to steel producers for the past three years as an indicator.

You guys know how trade works right?
Apologies. Would you like me to remove it?
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I think you're idiots if you think we won't sanction you and since intellectual properties are a huge issue with china, why the fuck would we not bargain with the snow that the usa is causing all these disrupts?


You guys have to realize how trade works. Fast.

And that's just trade. Military alliances moves with trade.
Ad hominems and expletives aside
If the EU sanction the US like you stated, how is this going to help BMW "prevail" if they lose out on probably their 2nd largest market
Please offer up some facts as I truly don't know how trade works
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The historical trade deficit combined with the foreign ownership of US debt is a problem. "Should (foreign) investors in American debt change their investing behavior, the impact would be detrimental to the American economy as the value of the dollar is driven down, U.S. interest rates are forced higher, and economic activity is stifled."

We've had deficits going back to 1975 and it's unsustainable. This is apolitical as both Dems and Rebubs are responsible.
We had more debt than you in the early 90's per head. I'm not from Canada or from Norway. And Alan Greenspan is the only man standing on my teenager crush list and he was saying that all when I had great tits.
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Ad hominems and expletives aside
If the EU sanction the US like you stated, how is this going to help BMW "prevail" if they lose out on probably their 2nd largest market
Please offer up some facts as I truly don't know how trade works
The EU will sanction targeted products but mainly concentrate on trading outside of USA. The EU has more companies besides the EU so thanks to our leaders we have an opening towards the ptt countries now.
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