Drove an E60 M5 Today...

Damage Inc · 11-25-2009, 08:52 PM

Considering one as I'd like a larger car than my e90 m3.

The engine was loud, very mechanical sounding. i do prefer the sounds of the m3. there's really not that much more back seat room over the e90 however the trunk is much larger.

Pro
more space
more power
more luxurious feel to the drive, more planted, not as "jumpy" as the m3 (we have horrible roads here)
better engine and intake sounds

Cons
not as agile
smg is horrible (i've owned one before) it doesnt match the luxury character of the car
scared to death of maintanence out of warranty
mpg
new 5 series will be out soon

overall its obviously a great car. i would take it in a second. however i dont think now is a good time with the new one coming out as they will take a major resale hit in the next 18 months.

brava09 · 11-26-2009, 03:16 AM

Did it feel much faster than the M3?

Damage Inc · 11-26-2009, 07:52 AM

While I didnt get to push it, it felt more powerful. would it actually be faster dunno

Kenyon · 11-26-2009, 09:18 AM

I've driven a lot of E60 M5 and E63 M6 in SMG. Although its fast it doesn't have that raw feel like the E9x M3. Guess its drivers preference in terms of comfort and luxury. I've also driven them in 6 spd. Now that, I like a lot!!!

VictorH · 11-26-2009, 12:53 PM

Did it feel much faster than the M3?

I've driven both back to back at the track and I'd say the M5 feels substantially faster once you are going above 40 mph or so. The difference above 100 mph is even more noticeable. Though the M5 weighs quite a bit more for some reason 100 more HP really makes a difference particularly at speed.
Gas milage is different too, on the track M5 was averaging a bit more than 6 mpg and the M3 was doing about 8.5 mpg.

FStop7 · 11-26-2009, 01:57 PM

The M5 feels like a rocket from 80mph and up.

With the F10 coming soon I'd pass on the E60, despite my love for that V10.

ACZakka325i · 11-26-2009, 04:25 PM

In driving the m5 compared to my m3, the only difference in power was felt in the M5's ability to continue accelerating well into triple digit speeds. The m5 just keeps overcoming wind resistance.

Gas milage and SMG are poor jokes in that car though.

stevehifi · 11-30-2009, 01:40 PM

I drove the e60 M5 many times and still have a fond liking for the car over my e90 m3. I feel the M5 is more raw in engine sound dept and has more character than the m3. I love the multifunction seats.. wish m3 had them. It does feel more planted than the m3 (which likes to dance more).

I hate the SMG (up shifts and jerky nature). This is really where the car is flawed.

noxredna · 11-30-2009, 02:52 PM

SMG is a big joke compared to DCT though... It's almost impossible to downgrade from DCT to M5's SMG... I'm sure they could have put DCT on 2009 M5 models.. it would have been amazing to have V10 engine with DCT

dr.jay · 11-30-2009, 02:59 PM

I agree with everyone else in saying the M5 performs amazing at triple digits, it feels like there is no end to its acceleration. Also the exhaust note is amazing, I was at a stop sign and hammered the gas, there was a lady getting her paper off the porch and was startled by the note, I lol'ed as the look on her face was pure terror. That being said around town the car is very jerky, I had it on 400hp and it was still like the first time I drove a manual tranny. Active seats are very cool, and the car I had a test drive with was equipped with H.U.D. which was neat but not needed.

max08e90 · 12-08-2009, 12:28 AM

M5 interior over M3 all day. As you said the M3 does feel a lot more balanced, though the M5 is a beast under hard acceleration...In my opinion after driving both, the M5 is better for every day (minus the gas milage) It would be so much better if it had DCT!

!Xoible · 12-08-2009, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MojorisinM3

Considering one as I'd like a larger car than my e90 m3.

The engine was loud, very mechanical sounding. i do prefer the sounds of the m3. there's really not that much more back seat room over the e90 however the trunk is much larger.

Pro
more space
more power
more luxurious feel to the drive, more planted, not as "jumpy" as the m3 (we have horrible roads here) - actually if you set it to stiff suspension it's more harsh than the m3
better engine and intake sounds

Cons
not as agile
smg is horrible (i've owned one before) it doesnt match the luxury character of the car
scared to death of maintanence out of warranty
mpg
new 5 series will be out soon

overall its obviously a great car. i would take it in a second. however i dont think now is a good time with the new one coming out as they will take a major resale hit in the next 18 months.

idk man u might be able to land a pretty good 2 year or 1 year lease on it since a new model is coming out... i agree on the highlighted items.

SHOWTIME · 12-15-2009, 11:21 AM

Does anyone know why you need to press a P500 to get all the HP? Is it for longer engine life? fuel economy?

Anyway, I hate the idea of having to press a button whenever I randomly want to go from cruising to full instant power.

John@BMW · 12-15-2009, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACZakka325i

In driving the m5 compared to my m3, the only difference in power was felt in the M5's ability to continue accelerating well into triple digit speeds. The m5 just keeps overcoming wind resistance.

Well said-

From 0-100, the m5 and m3 are even- Not many M5s getting low 12s/high 11s with simple bolt ons!

also,

No one is allowed to comment on how many MPG you get on a $95,000 dollar FIVE HUNDRED HORSEPOWER CAR! Good gas mileage = a slow car.... If you dont like 10mpg and SMG3 then go buy a 550i automatic

Example: No, I dont want a Veyron- a full tank of gas only lasts 13 minutes at WOT.....

the m3 sedan is like a smaller, sleeker, more agile M5-

BMW750 · 12-16-2009, 05:31 PM

m5 feels heavier so not as raw as m3. They have higher torque figues so inside the car you might feel as if its stronger, but the weight makes it slower than the m3

!Xoible · 12-16-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW750

m5 feels heavier so not as raw as m3. They have higher torque figues so inside the car you might feel as if its stronger, but the weight makes it slower than the m3

absolutely not... the M5 will pull on the M3, it's not just a feeling.

TheKosherStogie · 12-16-2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Xoible

absolutely not... the M5 will pull on the M3, it's not just a feeling.

well i raced one on frwy other day, and he was quite far behind me

JC919 · 12-16-2009, 08:56 PM

^You don't say (peek at the mods in his sig)

Honestly, I'd keep for the e90M based on the warranty issue alone. Paying out of pocket for basic maintenance is something I've really gotten used to with this car. Though you could re-up the warranty on an e60M.

shchow · 12-16-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyrusso

well i raced one on frwy other day, and he was quite far behind me

If we're talking about track times, M3>M5.

If we're talking straight line speed, M5>M3 stock vs stock; modded M5>modded M3.
Modded vs stock, stupid comparison and not really fair now is it...

11-25-2009, 08:52 PM	#1
Damage Inc Lieutenant Colonel 789 Rep 1,925 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nashville iTrader: (1)	Drove an E60 M5 Today... Considering one as I'd like a larger car than my e90 m3. The engine was loud, very mechanical sounding. i do prefer the sounds of the m3. there's really not that much more back seat room over the e90 however the trunk is much larger. Pro more space more power more luxurious feel to the drive, more planted, not as "jumpy" as the m3 (we have horrible roads here) better engine and intake sounds Cons not as agile smg is horrible (i've owned one before) it doesnt match the luxury character of the car scared to death of maintanence out of warranty mpg new 5 series will be out soon overall its obviously a great car. i would take it in a second. however i dont think now is a good time with the new one coming out as they will take a major resale hit in the next 18 months. __________________ Current: 17 OG M2 / R8 Performance Past Performance Cars: 01 M3, 05 M3, 06 M5, 08 M6, 08 M3, 11 M3, 13 M3, 15 M3, 911 C4S, 911 GTS, 17 M2,R8 V8, R8 RWS
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brava09 Lieutenant Colonel 767 Rep 1,683 Posts Drives: M4C xdrive Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	Did it feel much faster than the M3? __________________ 22 M4 Competition xdrive 19 M5 Competition sold 16 F-Type S AWD sold 11 Audi RS5 Misano Red--sold 08 E92 M3 Jerez Black 6MT--sold 08 E92 335i 6MT traded in for M3
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11-26-2009, 07:52 AM	#3
Damage Inc Lieutenant Colonel 789 Rep 1,925 Posts Drives: 2017 M2 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Nashville iTrader: (1)	While I didnt get to push it, it felt more powerful. would it actually be faster dunno __________________ Current: 17 OG M2 / R8 Performance Past Performance Cars: 01 M3, 05 M3, 06 M5, 08 M6, 08 M3, 11 M3, 13 M3, 15 M3, 911 C4S, 911 GTS, 17 M2,R8 V8, R8 RWS
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Kenyon Captain 102 Rep 780 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: LA / NYC iTrader: (20)	I've driven a lot of E60 M5 and E63 M6 in SMG. Although its fast it doesn't have that raw feel like the E9x M3. Guess its drivers preference in terms of comfort and luxury. I've also driven them in 6 spd. Now that, I like a lot!!!
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VictorH Major 433 Rep 1,286 Posts Drives: '09 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SC iTrader: (4)	Did it feel much faster than the M3? I've driven both back to back at the track and I'd say the M5 feels substantially faster once you are going above 40 mph or so. The difference above 100 mph is even more noticeable. Though the M5 weighs quite a bit more for some reason 100 more HP really makes a difference particularly at speed. Gas milage is different too, on the track M5 was averaging a bit more than 6 mpg and the M3 was doing about 8.5 mpg.
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FStop7 I like cars 329 Rep 5,052 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newbury Park, CA iTrader: (3)	The M5 feels like a rocket from 80mph and up. With the F10 coming soon I'd pass on the E60, despite my love for that V10. __________________ My photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/racelap/
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ACZakka325i Colonel 277 Rep 2,008 Posts Drives: 2 stroke Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: CT iTrader: (2)	In driving the m5 compared to my m3, the only difference in power was felt in the M5's ability to continue accelerating well into triple digit speeds. The m5 just keeps overcoming wind resistance. Gas milage and SMG are poor jokes in that car though. __________________ (Waitlist): #1 M2CSL (Current): 2016 F15 X5 3.5xdrive - 2010 997.2 C4S Coupe (Past): 2016 F30 340xi M-Sport -2013 535i xdrive 2008 E92 M3 - 2006 E90 325i 2002 E46 325xi - 1991 E30 325i
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stevehifi Captain 527 Rep 855 Posts Drives: 17 F80 M3 ZCP Join Date: May 2008 Location: Irvine,CA iTrader: (5)	I drove the e60 M5 many times and still have a fond liking for the car over my e90 m3. I feel the M5 is more raw in engine sound dept and has more character than the m3. I love the multifunction seats.. wish m3 had them. It does feel more planted than the m3 (which likes to dance more). I hate the SMG (up shifts and jerky nature). This is really where the car is flawed.
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noxredna Captain 63 Rep 672 Posts Drives: E92 M3, E30 M3, 1M, F10 M5 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Singapore & San Fransisco iTrader: (0)	SMG is a big joke compared to DCT though... It's almost impossible to downgrade from DCT to M5's SMG... I'm sure they could have put DCT on 2009 M5 models.. it would have been amazing to have V10 engine with DCT
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11-30-2009, 02:59 PM	#10
dr.jay Lieutenant 14 Rep 465 Posts Drives: 2011 135 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Greenwood Always Up to No Good iTrader: (1)	I agree with everyone else in saying the M5 performs amazing at triple digits, it feels like there is no end to its acceleration. Also the exhaust note is amazing, I was at a stop sign and hammered the gas, there was a lady getting her paper off the porch and was startled by the note, I lol'ed as the look on her face was pure terror. That being said around town the car is very jerky, I had it on 400hp and it was still like the first time I drove a manual tranny. Active seats are very cool, and the car I had a test drive with was equipped with H.U.D. which was neat but not needed. __________________ "Barzini is dead. So is Phillip Tattallgia. Moe Green. Slacci. Cuneo. Today I settled all family business so don't tell me that you're innocent. Admit what you did"
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12-08-2009, 12:28 AM	#11
max08e90 Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 211 Posts Drives: E92 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: LA iTrader: (2)	M5 interior over M3 all day. As you said the M3 does feel a lot more balanced, though the M5 is a beast under hard acceleration...In my opinion after driving both, the M5 is better for every day (minus the gas milage) It would be so much better if it had DCT!
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SHOWTIME Lieutenant 42 Rep 586 Posts Drives: 2011 335i Coupe M-Sport Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Westchester, NY iTrader: (0)	Does anyone know why you need to press a P500 to get all the HP? Is it for longer engine life? fuel economy? Anyway, I hate the idea of having to press a button whenever I randomly want to go from cruising to full instant power.
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12-16-2009, 05:31 PM	#15
BMW750 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 32 Posts Drives: BMW 750 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	m5 feels heavier so not as raw as m3. They have higher torque figues so inside the car you might feel as if its stronger, but the weight makes it slower than the m3 __________________
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JC919 Lieutenant Colonel 72 Rep 1,803 Posts Drives: CSL Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland iTrader: (0)	^You don't say (peek at the mods in his sig) Honestly, I'd keep for the e90M based on the warranty issue alone. Paying out of pocket for basic maintenance is something I've really gotten used to with this car. Though you could re-up the warranty on an e60M. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] 2007 GT3 Clubsport w/CGT buckets in Scotland 2003 CSL, SG, Alcon BBK SOLD 2002 M5, SSII/Blk and bone stock. In storage back home in TX 2008 M3, AW/Blk 6MT, lots of track stuff SOLD
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