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      09-16-2020, 09:06 PM   #331
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The great thing about the M2 though is that is seems to be purchased overwhelmingly by enthusiasts. The M3/4 has ventured far off into badge whore territory, but the M2 with its small size, spartan interior, raw driving feel, and lack of streed cred due to the number "2" has kept it away from the types of BMW owners we all hate.

I hope BMW recognizes this and keeps this next generation driver-focused like the current model, because frankly it's the only vehicle remaining in their entire portfolio that maintains the philosophy of the E-chassis models.
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The M2C offers exactly what anyone needs to enjoy an enthusiastic driving experience.

It is now up to BMW to take the F87 M2C to the next level with the G87 . . . I am confident they will.

Until then, the M2C is a great ride.

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I recently read an article that spoke of a survey in China n=10,000 with around 66% preferring the more traditional 3 series grille to the G22s hideous maw. They did go on to say that the Chinese do have a preference for large grilled vehicles but only when executed "well." Our brethren in East Asia have been referring to the new 4er gob as the "maxi-pad." - certainly a fair assessment from my perspective.
Very interesting would love to know more, do you happen to have any links of the article?
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I recently read an article that spoke of a survey in China n=10,000 with around 66% preferring the more traditional 3 series grille to the G22s hideous maw. They did go on to say that the Chinese do have a preference for large grilled vehicles but only when executed "well." Our brethren in East Asia have been referring to the new 4er gob as the "maxi-pad." - certainly a fair assessment from my perspective.
Very interesting would love to know more, do you happen to have any links of the article?
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: Maxi-pad... That is some comedy gold.

Oh happy day! I find it fitting that someone finally did their homework and got this survey done. This is a big chunk of their sales. Don't see this grille moving forward too much further than this gen.
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just keep the size and weight in check please
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just keep the size and weight in check please
Unfortunately it's already extremely clear the incoming 2er Coupe has increased in size and weight
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I'm impressed. Either the driver is amazing or that dog-faced-pony-soldier of a car is that smooth and stable.
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just keep the size and weight in check please
Unfortunately it's already extremely clear the incoming 2er Coupe has increased in size and weight
Agreed but I am excited for it. Have always loved the 1-series then 2-series coupes.
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I'm hoping for a win. The G87 M2 will be the only thing left that BMW can offer me to keep me in brand after the abortion of the G80/82.

I love my F80 but my 135 still has a special place in the heart.
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just keep the size and weight in check please
Unfortunately it's already extremely clear the incoming 2er Coupe has increased in size and weight
Agreed but I am excited for it. Have always loved the 1-series then 2-series coupes.
Having owned both believe me I understand your fondness

Not sure why BMW cannot stop making them larger with every generation
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just keep the size and weight in check please
Unfortunately it's already extremely clear the incoming 2er Coupe has increased in size and weight
Agreed but I am excited for it. Have always loved the 1-series then 2-series coupes.
Having owned both believe me I understand your fondness

Not sure why BMW cannot stop making them larger with every generation
I'm sure it's a combination of regulations, consumer demand (for what I don't know), and SUVs.

It's a damn shame. Sooner or later, it will have to stop. Basic physics, but we'll see.
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The G87 M2 is the last car standing in BMW's upcoming line-up to resemble something close to an interesting sports car.

The G series M3/M4, performance aside have become so big that I don't know how people can navigate through in cities like Paris or Rome with maze of small tight streets. One certainly can't drive them fast on tight narrow winding roads due to their sheer body length...

Wishy thinking here. It will be a victory for M if they can make the G87 closer to a 1M than an F87 M2 in the spirit of driving engagement. Think more analogue than digital...real grainy imperfective substance over fake sounds or artificially induced sensation...and keep that manual handbrake as well!
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...and keep that manual handbrake as well!
Why do we love the manual hand brake so much?

Just do!

Have no idea why?!

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Why do we love the manual hand brake so much?

Just do!

Have no idea why?!

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Why do we love the manual hand brake so much?

Just do!

Have no idea why?!

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I recently read an article that spoke of a survey in China n=10,000 with around 66% preferring the more traditional 3 series grille to the G22s hideous maw. They did go on to say that the Chinese do have a preference for large grilled vehicles but only when executed "well." Our brethren in East Asia have been referring to the new 4er gob as the "maxi-pad." - certainly a fair assessment from my perspective.
Very interesting would love to know more, do you happen to have any links of the article?
Sorry for muddying the 2er thread. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wap.../news/1371/amp

The article, albeit a bit obscure,has an image of the survey all in Mandarin of course. I am pursuing the original survey and have a good friend to translate.
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I recently read an article that spoke of a survey in China n=10,000 with around 66% preferring the more traditional 3 series grille to the G22s hideous maw. They did go on to say that the Chinese do have a preference for large grilled vehicles but only when executed "well." Our brethren in East Asia have been referring to the new 4er gob as the "maxi-pad." - certainly a fair assessment from my perspective.
Damn it now I can't unsee the maxipad.
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Handbrake turns always remind me of this...

This is the correct answer! LOL
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I'm hoping for a win. The G87 M2 will be the only thing left that BMW can offer me to keep me in brand after the abortion of the G80/82.

I love my F80 but my 135 still has a special place in the heart.
Always regretted going from my 135is to the M4. The 135is was more fun 95% of the time, it also sounded MUCH better.
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I am hopeful for this car, should be my replacement for the G20. This and G87 are the two I am interested in and most likely may end up with both. G87 may be last modern M car that peaks my interest. It maybe all downhill from here with ICE becoming obsolete. That's more of an issue than even the size since I am not ready for EV.
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The car should look awesome with a powerdome and some proper M pumped steroidal fenders...1M front fenders matched with M2 rear fenders would be perfect in my book

Teamed with an S58 + close ratio 6MT + RWD = Motoring nirvana
6MT is confirmed for the G42 (2-coupe') Correct?
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I am not personally interested in G42, but it does look nice for a base 2-series.

Under impression G42 has the same B58 engine found in Supra?

Anticipated timing of G87 M2C release will suit me perfectly. I have another 1-2 years of enjoyment left in my F87 M2C.

I am sure the G87 will be drawn out over a good year of so-called 'spy shots' and an enormous thread of its own. It will be fun watching it all unfold.

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