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It was so bad that I sent an email to the guy at SCCA who runs TNIA. Here's the email I sent him, verbatim: Hi Heyward - I was given your email by one of the workers at the PIR TNIA event this past Friday regarding feedback from a participant. I attended a TNIA event several years ago and hadn’t been back since due to how unorganized the event was ran. I decided to try it again this year to see if it had improved to add it back to my yearly track rotation. I attended the June event which was very wet and raining, so there were only a handful of cars in the advanced group so didn’t give a good representative sample of how the event went, so Friday the 10th was a much better indicator. As a disclaimer, I am an instructor with the Portland BMW club and Cascade Sports Car Club (sanctioned ICSCC driving school). Below is a copy and paste of what I posted on FB for my other track junky friends (many of whom are advanced/license holders/instructor drivers): —————— OK, my fellow track rat people are waiting on a review of the current state of Track Night America @ PIR. I slept on it. TLDR: Not going to do it again. Long Version: 1. At the drivers meeting for Intermediate/Advanced, it was stated that the Advanced group would have open passing anywhere, including 10/11/12. Several of us objected to that and the organizer said if that's how "the track rules it" then we'll refrain from passing in 10/11/12. Phew. 2. Passing was either side, whenever people wanted. "There is no wrong side" for passing. That means you had people darting to one side of the track or the other to start point by which led to some sketchy passing. 3. Car control: I've never seen so many offs in a single day in the advanced group before. We had 4 cars off in a single session, including one who appeared to try to keep up with me through 10, went off through 10/11 and came back on track just behind me as I went through 12. If I had slowed down any he probably would of ran into me (a blue Boxster, for those wondering). 4. Of the 30 people in the advanced group, based on who I saw as I went through traffic, maybe 10 I would of classified as advanced. The rest where at the Intermediate level... or worse. Driving lines were off in a lot of corners (4a/4b, 6 especially), which lead to unpredictable behavior as people braked mid-corner or chased apex’s, leading to sliding and scrubbing speed mid corner. A lot of folks were running wide onto kerbs on the outside of turns, leading to suspension bumps and getting the car very unsettled. Lots of folks hopping the T3 inside kerb with predictable results. 5. I will say that the vast majority of people who pointed me by did so safely, but there was more sketchy point by/passing than any other group we normally run with. A lot of black flags by the corner workers to call people in though, which was good. Corner workers did throw out debris flags when necessary, but the drivers meeting said yellow would be used for ALL cautions, so anyone not familiar with the debris flag would of been confused Overall, the organization of it was a lot better than last time I went (in the dry) several years ago, but the on track behavior still leaves a lot to be desired. I know they are trying to make this not a school and something just for fun, but not coaching beginners on vaguely proper lines and consistency means they are just reinforcing bad habits. Most of these folks I’ve never seen at any other PIR track day, which means as soon as they hit up BMW, CSCC, HOD, etc. they are in for a rude surprise. —————— I’ve had students at other days ask me about TNIA, and I’ve been telling them I wouldn’t recommend it due to the lack of vetting of self-selected run groups and the quality of the on track behavior. Unfortunately, my experience on Friday just reinforced that. I want TNIA to succeed and become more respected, but at least in Portland, it has a reputation that needs to be fixed. |
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Making some progress, and I'm quite proud of how it's coming out.
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07-11-2019, 03:51 PM | #9796 |
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07-11-2019, 10:25 PM | #9798 | |
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07-12-2019, 12:09 AM | #9800 |
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You know that you must now go replace at minimum seven oem bolts with titanium ones to cancel the weight of the wrap you added
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07-12-2019, 12:51 AM | #9801 |
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I’m supposed to drive at COTA next Friday, but I haven’t ordered new rear springs; installed sunroof delete panel; lubricated caliper guides, sway bar, and FCABs; and done tech inspection. Why do I do this to myself
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07-12-2019, 06:47 PM | #9803 |
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Is anyone doing COTA After Dark next week with Edge Addicts? If so, what is this "solo certified" thing they are requiring?
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Which is backwards from TNiA which noobies and everyone drives solo. |
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07-12-2019, 09:39 PM | #9806 |
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Nope, never driven with them.
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07-12-2019, 10:23 PM | #9808 |
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Like thundermoose said should be good to go if you send them your resume. Just an FYI they cancelled their night drive in August so this week is it. Was looking forward to the August one
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07-12-2019, 10:50 PM | #9809 |
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Karen just emailed me back and said if you've been cleared by other organizations to run solo, you can do so with them. Phew.
You guys gonna be there?
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track + sedan
do you roll down just the front windows or all 4 windows? all the way down on the rear or not?
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