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[tommy94gt]

Originally Posted by LarThaL

I wouldn't spend this much money on black wheels. You can't see them!!!

Agreed 100%. Depending on the light it will be pretty hard to make out the shape of your wheels 90% of the times.
I still like BBS. But if you are after a "custom" finish such as xfirer1guyx's wheels HRE is the way to go.

[phrozen06]

BBS no doubt

[BIGW0RM]

Originally Posted by Carlos@MORR

These things happen, no offense taken. You just need the right hit at the right speed at the right angle and your wheel is bent. More wheels bend at the track than at the streets. So it's not about brute force. It just happens. But to assist our customers with that, our wheels come with a lifetime structural warranty so in cases where Road Hazard is not at fault, we can offer a free replacement. Where Road Hazard could have had a major play, we can offer discounted rates for replacements, sometimes at cost. In cases where both fronts are bent, it could be that you hit something in the road just at the right time. Regardless, send me at email at Carlos@**********.com and I`ll be more than happy to take care of this for you.

Carlos

Thanks for the reply Carlos. I appreciate it. I realize things happen and I could have very well hit something hard, but I sincerely do not remember ever doing so. Assuming they are tough, I would think I would have had to hit something pretty hard. At any rate I appreciate you offering to help, but I ended up having them repaired.

I just don't understand how it happened. But it's all good. You and Andy treated me pretty good when I bought them so it's cool.

Thanks!

[dreamspeed]

BBS, I know HREs make good wheels but I don't really like their styles

[calscooby]

Thank you for all the insight! Definitely helping out.

One thing I wasn't even thinking about was how it makes it so hard to see the detail on the gloss black color. In looking at more wheels now, I'm thinking the S101 may be better as they offer the contrast on the rim. I've gone with the Gloss Black theme throughout so far - My front grills, IND side, and Jet black glossed the inside of the Headlights ---- so the theme I was going for was more aggressive. I'm liking the gun metal look too - but always had a thing for black rims.

Yes, the BBS are about 500 more than the HRE - but after 8k on wheels, it basically comes out to about the same.

This is an example of the same color I have (San Marino Blue) on an M6, with the HRE S101...Looks pretty money to me (and by money I mean broke as $hit will be me after EDU09 has convinced me to mod the crap out of my car).

[MikeM5]

The FI takes it for me, though I'd be happy to run either if my pockets were deep enough, haha. It's been said already, but I wish the FI's came in better offsets all around - even the 18" variant leaves a bit to be desired IMO (save for maybe the RKP version).

[edu09]

Originally Posted by calscooby

Thank you for all the insight! Definitely helping out.


This is an example of the same color I have (San Marino Blue) on an M6, with the HRE S101...Looks pretty money to me (and by money I mean broke as $hit will be me after EDU09 has convinced me to mod the crap out of my car).

Man now you have more GFs than before you started adding mods to your car so you have to thank me for that...lol...your car is looking awesome, once you have added the wheels you can relax for a couple of weeks!

[calscooby]

Originally Posted by edu09

Man now you have more GFs than before you started adding mods to your car so you have to thank me for that...lol...your car is looking awesome, once you have added the wheels you can relax for a couple of weeks!

GIRLS

Very true, very true.... Maybe in March I can get talked into the supercharger and invite them all to the same party!

[AKG M3]

Very insightful thread. Thanks for all the info guys. When its time to change my wheels, I think MORR is better for me

[M GmbH]

If you want custom look no further.
http://www.forgeline.com/index.php
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[bobs619]

BBS +1 . Like watches BBS is like rolex and HRE is like AP. LOL

[toddcc1]

Originally Posted by bobs619

BBS +1 . Like watches BBS is like rolex and HRE is like AP. LOL

You should change that analogy. Rolex movements are sub-par for the money, there are far better movements/watches available that are more accurate. Rolex's are for old people and Rappers attempting to impress...which I don't believe you were attempting to convey.

[JEllis]

For me the list is-

1) BBS
2) Volk
3) HRE

BBS and Volk wheels are a true forged wheel in the sense that BBS and Volk own and operate the highest strength forging machines in the world. The wheels are actually stamped into the the design of the wheel. The difference between forging the wheel into the shape of the wheel and cutting the wheel out of a forged blank, as I understand it, is the way the grains are arranged within the wheel itself. With a forged blank your forced to deal with the grain flow in the shape of the blank and that grain flow integrity will be severed when the blank is milled. With a true forged wheel the grain flow maintains integrity within the actual design of the wheel.

The advantages of milling a forged wheel out of a forged blank is being able to produce wheels in many different sizes and offsets to please customers. In the true forging process the cost of allowing custom offsets and sizing would be cost prohibitive due to the number of stamps (very large and heavy pieces of high quality steel made to withstand the force of the forging presses) that would have to be produced to accommodate customers. BBS will do custom orders but I believe they require a 20 wheel set run.

You cannot go wrong going with any of the three I have mentioned. But, to call a milled forged wheel as high quality as a true forged wheel would be a mistake.

[Wheel'$ForLe$$]

Definitely our vote goes to the HRE's all the way....

[Brosef]

HRE for sure. best mod I made to my car (tied with the 380mm yellow Brembo's).

[Halitosis]

Is there even a comparison? Quality and materials aside, no one can back-mill like BBS. Look at the BBS FI's organic milling vs. the copies/competitors. I say copies is because all others followed BBS in the method spokes were milled for weight reduction and aesthetics. Lesser players (read: boutique wheel companies) such as HRE, ADV, etc. wishes they had the capability to finish wheels like this.

To compare the others to BBS/Rays is asinine.

HRE P101:




BBS FI:






Notice how the BBS' look like they were carved out, giving a very organic appearance as opposed to the CNC machined look of the HREs. That's where big money finishing and forging comes into play. BBS is a boss amongst bosses my lads.

[Amirsm3]

Originally Posted by Pertplus

Lexani or Asanti...but that's just me!

Giovanna wheels, doe

[ozc]

Originally Posted by Halitosis

Is there even a comparison? Quality and materials aside, no one can back-mill like BBS. Look at the BBS FI's organic milling vs. the copies/competitors. I say copies is because all others followed BBS in the method spokes were milled for weight reduction and aesthetics. Lesser players (read: boutique wheel companies) such as HRE, ADV, etc. wishes they had the capability to finish wheels like this.

To compare the others to BBS/Rays is asinine.

Notice how the BBS' look like they were carved out, giving a very organic appearance as opposed to the CNC machined look of the HREs. That's where big money finishing and forging comes into play. BBS is a boss amongst bosses my lads.

agree 100%

[sher-bant]

What about Vossen?

I can get a set of four CV7 or CV5 for $1250 delivered.

Crap wheels/get what you pay for?
Please...shoot me straight.

[///MPower15]

Originally Posted by sher-bant

What about Vossen?

I can get a set of four CV7 or CV5 for $1250 delivered.

Crap wheels/get what you pay for?
Please...shoot me straight.

Yes. Vossen do not compare to BBS or HRE. If you want to spend around that amount I recommend Apex.

[ozc]

BBS all the way!

[becausephilchow]

BBS, if you're comparing P101 to FIs, but, HRE makes some very nice wheels too.