Competition package yes or no?

James T. Kirk · 12-14-2011, 04:27 PM

Yes, get it even if you end up making changes later. It's good.
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Ateam · 12-14-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by checkmate

I didn't get the ZCP for 3 reasons:

* I like the 220M wheels better (plus these are forged vs the cast 359)
* Didn't care for EDC
* $2,500 in the bank (which will go towards a set of Apex ARC8 with 18' tires)

Worth it? How about you watch that Top Gear episode where Clarkson flogs a ZCP around the track and concludes..the standard suspension is fine)

You didnt really have 2500 in the bank since you paid 1000 for the 19s you have so really you paid 1500 less than a zcp package since you wanted 19s anyway. nonetheless like me did not want edc so it was worth saving 1500.

Ateam · 12-14-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

ZCP was a must-have when I was deciding on my car options. I think the wheels look fantastic. Nothing wrong with the 220M wheels, but since we've seen them on the road now for 4 years, it just makes a ZCP car seem newer/fresher.

I agree that the ZCP wheels are the best looking stock/after-market wheel design, at anything near their price.

And a 1/2" drop is never a bad thing

More wrong info as it is a 10mm drop.

Prophizee · 12-14-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ateam

More wrong info as it is a 10mm drop.

Yeah thats what i don't understand isn't a 10mm drop like .36 of an inch. Could be wrong, but thats what i thought

Ateam · 12-14-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Prophizee

Yeah thats what i don't understand isn't a 10mm drop like .36 of an inch. Could be wrong, but thats what i thought

.34 of an inch exactly. not even visible IMO if you put two cars side by side

M3SQRD · 12-14-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ateam

.34 of an inch exactly. not even visible IMO if you put two cars side by side

I think you need to redo your unit conversion because you're adding "more wrong" info

tlp · 12-14-2011, 07:23 PM

I guess size does matter.

10 millimeters = 0.393700787 inches

jqsmooth · 12-14-2011, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by checkmate

I didn't get the ZCP for 3 reasons:

* I like the 220M wheels better (plus these are forged vs the cast 359)
* Didn't care for EDC
* $2,500 in the bank (which will go towards a set of Apex ARC8 with 18' tires)

Worth it? How about you watch that Top Gear episode where Clarkson flogs a ZCP around the track and concludes..the standard suspension is fine)

I wonder what setting the car comes in if you don't get EDC. Comfort or Normal? Or sport?

SamS · 12-14-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ateam

More wrong info as it is a 10mm drop.

When I sit in the car it's 1/2" lower.

Ateam · 12-14-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

When I sit in the car it's 1/2" lower.

Must be a fat ass?

Ateam · 12-14-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dbarnes

I think you need to redo your unit conversion because you're adding "more wrong" info

You drive a cooper so nothing you say is of any relevance. Who drives a cooper and is a male? (unless you are a female?)

immiketoo · 12-14-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Freeeek!

High Five!

I did European Delivery three weeks ago. All the people working there along with other (mostly European) customers will be friendly and ask you about what car you are getting. When I'd respond "M3", they were genuinely surprised haha. Aside from being the youngest customer there, I do NOT look like or seem to fit the mold of the typical M3 driver. One of the delivery agents was waiting in the lounge between appointments and was doing the German engage with customers thing. He talked to me for a few minutes and asked about what I was picking up that day and was like "Oh M Sport very nice" and I corrected him "Nope the real deal M". I also met an older couple from the Midwest taking a delivery and after the requisite exchange of small talk/vehicle information, the wife tried to be snarky, "Oh how lovely dear...was it a gift?"...I responded with "It was actually - a gift to myself!"

How was your trip? I did mine in May and it was awesome. I loved every minute of it. Where did you go?

TTG · 12-14-2011, 11:14 PM

I thought all M3's came with ZCP..... j/k

I waited until this option was avail.... mine is one of the very 1st M3's w/ ZCP.

~Get it for sure.

ChrisK · 12-15-2011, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SamS

Ah... forged vs. cast OEM wheels.

Still waiting for someone to show me a cracked 359M wheel! I'll take that extra 1/2" any day.

I'm still waiting for someone to test the two cars (ZCP vs Non) against each other on the track.

e46 ZCP, was a must
e92 ZCP, greatest marketing from BMW yet!

...and let's face it - ZCP owners or Non-ZCP owners both think they made the right choice, and they did.

As far as resale, 95% of the population buying an M3 don't even know what the hell ZCP is. As members here
we do.

S65V8 · 12-15-2011, 05:52 AM

Driven both ZCP '11 and '08 and agree that it's mainly a Wheel preference mod. It's a tad harsher on the ride, but still fine. The EDC updates are only likely noticeable on the track, as I couldn't really appreciate the "improvement" in spirited street driving.

Save $2,500 - get suspension you want (even EDC compatible ones) and nice 19s or 20s that don't require Spacers to have flush fitment.

I like the ZCP 19s overall, but because they require Spacers to have flush fitment, it's a bit of a miss IMO.

bobbyd1961 · 12-15-2011, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Veratyr

If you were going to get a new M3 would you opt for the competition package? Does it handle that much better, versus the cost to the ride for daily street driving? Anybody have time behind the wheel with an E9x with and without the competition package?

id say yes. but i do prefer my rims

Prophizee · 12-15-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamS

Ah... forged vs. cast OEM wheels.

Still waiting for someone to show me a cracked 359M wheel! I'll take that extra 1/2" any day.

I'm still waiting for someone to test the two cars (ZCP vs Non) against each other on the track.

e46 ZCP, was a must
e92 ZCP, greatest marketing from BMW yet!

...and let's face it - ZCP owners or Non-ZCP owners both think they made the right choice, and they did.

As far as resale, 95% of the population buying an M3 don't even know what the hell ZCP is. As members here
we do.

I actually did test them side by side if you search in the forum you will find it. It was a few months ago hopefully it helps

cghempel · 12-15-2011, 09:31 AM

I got the ZCP package and I like it. I have not driven an M3 without ZCP, but I love the way my M3 drives/feels. My main reason for getting ZCP was the stunning wheels that are included

klammer · 12-15-2011, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisK

I'm still waiting for someone to test the two cars (ZCP vs Non) against each other on the track.

e46 ZCP, was a must
e92 ZCP, greatest marketing from BMW yet!

...and let's face it - ZCP owners or Non-ZCP owners both think they made the right choice, and they did.

As far as resale, 95% of the population buying an M3 don't even know what the hell ZCP is. As members here
we do.

This was what I got away from things last year. In retrospect I probably would have gotten zcp but do love everything about the way MY car feels today, car rocks

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462561

FR01 · 12-15-2011, 11:01 PM

Comp pkg here looks better to me, slight lower as mentioned.

That doesn't "add" much in terms of noticeable performance at least in most skill ranges.

MisterClutch888 · 01-18-2022, 02:34 PM

I know the springs are different, but are the shocks different than non-comp package as well?

Helmsman · 01-18-2022, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterClutch888

I know the springs are different, but are the shocks different than non-comp package as well?

Dang thats a proper thread wake up!

Take a look here mate, lots of interesting details from a star on the subject, Alpina527 (who unfortunately isn't with us any more..): https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa....120370/page-5

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