engine oil 60 to 40 could make actuactor bad?

[Typer0318]

i never wanted relay with ny gay,,,poor me,,,

[DSilk]

Originally Posted by Typer0318

well, let me call u, i am not gay and sorrie shouldnt

feel like writing an essay here


tho i will be more careful as writing biz email next time

and

for those inputs! much thanks!!!
u know soon i will be back to 60.
thinking of omega 788 sth cost like $500, here!

Let you call me? Please don't. I have better things to do with my time than listen to the rantings of a person who cannot be troubled to attain fluency in his mother tongue. If proper grammar is somehow an indication of sexual orientation then it would appear that you are one of the only non "gay" people here; although my wife and 3 children might be shocked to see how well I have managed to conceal my true nature.

[Typer0318]

Originally Posted by DSilk

Let you call me? Please don't. I have better things to do with my time than listen to the rantings of a person who cannot be troubled to attain fluency in his mother tongue. If proper grammar is somehow an indication of sexual orientation then it would appear that you are one of the only non "gay" people here; although my wife and 3 children might be shocked to see how well I have managed to conceal my true nature.

it is too late to say i was being,,,

u know i was just acting like a monkey,

plz dont mind me,,,

[Typer0318]

Originally Posted by DSilk

Let you call me? Please don't. I have better things to do with my time than listen to the rantings of a person who cannot be troubled to attain fluency in his mother tongue. If proper grammar is somehow an indication of sexual orientation then it would appear that you are one of the only non "gay" people here; although my wife and 3 children might be shocked to see how well I have managed to conceal my true nature.

once i worked with Jap waiter who was, in CA,,,

i told him i "admire",

i am 1981 born, should thought about more
my bad.

[R3dliner]

Originally Posted by Typer0318

plz dont ruin me here

i beg u

I have no clue what you just wrote. Mi chin nom

[Typer0318]

Originally Posted by R3dliner

I have no clue what you just wrote. Mi chin nom

i need to play cool now, my lovely R3dliner,

mi chin nom = crazy

i like being called crazy also
when i drove type-r, my lovely word hearing was "asshole"

also crazy word becoming gooder side these days,

say sth worse, u will never ruin my day, u nyc rooster~ ha h a

[Typer0318]

Originally Posted by R3dliner

I have no clue what you just wrote. Mi chin nom

sucker

Best regards,
Marco
+ 82 10 6318 1855

[R3dliner]

Originally Posted by Typer0318

i need to play cool now, my lovely R3dliner,

mi chin nom = crazy

i like being called crazy also
when i drove type-r, my lovely word hearing was "asshole"

also crazy word becoming gooder side these days,

say sth worse, u will never ruin my day, u nyc rooster~ ha h a

jiral ha go in neh

[Typer0318]

Originally Posted by R3dliner

jiral ha go in neh

like ur emblem~

[R3dliner]

Originally Posted by Typer0318

like ur emblem~

you mean like your fob ass that has terrible english?
I'm done here.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by STR8-6IX

Mobil 1 is also a very poor quality oil. it is the worst oil you can get for your car.

but even for low RPM driving, 10w60 is still best for your car.

if one uses the m3 for short distance driving (not letting oil warm up) they should sell the car or buy a daily driver.

I wouldn't say it's low quality oil. Mobil 1 is factory fill in many high end cars.

As for using 0w40, there's many threads on this forum saying the benefits of running 0w40 including faster warm up/cool down, faster revving engine and increased lubrication for rod bearings. It's actually ideal for non-track use.

[Leonardo629]

M1 0W40 is factory fill for cars like GTR, Porsche GT3s, and McLarens...I guess they just want their engines to break so they can warranty the crap out of them.

[STR8-6IX]

Originally Posted by Z K

I wouldn't say it's low quality oil. Mobil 1 is factory fill in many high end cars.

As for using 0w40, there's many threads on this forum saying the benefits of running 0w40 including faster warm up/cool down, faster revving engine and increased lubrication for rod bearings. It's actually ideal for non-track use.

just because manufacturers are sponsored by an oil company unfortunately does not mean it is a good quality oil. this is the case with mobil 1.

the benefits of 0w are all bullshit. it is a myth started in north american purely due to the CAFE requirements alone. do yourself a favour and read up on those if you are interested. no other place in the world claims 0w oil is better.. because its not. it is not possible for a physically thinner oil to provide the same levels of protection as a physically thicker oil. the M3 has extremely loose bearing clearances to be able to run 10w60 oil like this. 0w40 will NOT anywhere near fill those bearings properly and therefore NOT provide your engine with sufficient protection. I have heard of aggressive drivers blowing the bottom end of their vehicles with a 0w oil and I will never make the switch in my life.

Originally Posted by Leonardo629

M1 0W40 is factory fill for cars like GTR, Porsche GT3s, and McLarens...I guess they just want their engines to break so they can warranty the crap out of them.

thats most likely exactly what it is. why else do you think bmw wants you to change oil every 15k and that transmission fluid is "lifetime?"

[R3dliner]

I heard somewhere mobil 1 isn't a true synthetic but a blended oil.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by STR8-6IX

just because manufacturers are sponsored by an oil company unfortunately does not mean it is a good quality oil. this is the case with mobil 1.

the benefits of 0w are all bullshit. it is a myth started in north american purely due to the CAFE requirements alone. do yourself a favour and read up on those if you are interested. no other place in the world claims 0w oil is better.. because its not. it is not possible for a physically thinner oil to provide the same levels of protection as a physically thicker oil. the M3 has extremely loose bearing clearances to be able to run 10w60 oil like this. 0w40 will NOT anywhere near fill those bearings properly and therefore NOT provide your engine with sufficient protection. I have heard of aggressive drivers blowing the bottom end of their vehicles with a 0w oil and I will never make the switch in my life.

On a S65 M3?

There are many people who run 0w40 on the track with no problems. These include M3 shop cars that are set up for track use. I have driven a mix of 0w40 on track with no issues. It cools much better than 10w60. You can check the oil analysis thread to see my oil analysis results after track days.

Do you ever go to the BITOG oil forums? 0w40 Mobil 1 european formula is one of the highest quality oils you can buy. They run a ton of tests on it and all the oil experts there agree it is very good.

[STR8-6IX]

Originally Posted by Z K

On a S65 M3?

There are many people who run 0w40 on the track with no problems. These include M3 shop cars that are set up for track use. I have driven a mix of 0w40 on track with no issues. It cools much better than 10w60. You can check the oil analysis thread to see my oil analysis results after track days.

Do you ever go to the BITOG oil forums? 0w40 Mobil 1 european formula is one of the highest quality oils you can buy. They run a ton of tests on it and all the oil experts there agree it is very good.

I would use something thicker on the s65. maybe not 10w60 unless its a very hot track day, but not much thinner then that. man, its what the engineers specify. I would NOT be messing with their recommendations.

I use 5w40 shell rotella in my N52 and the car loved it compared to 5w30.

we were using 0w20 castrol and once tried mobil 1 in my dads mazda and it ate through a whole quart within 5000 miles. it consumed oil much less with castrol (which isnt much better then mobil 1, but still better)

then we made the switch to 5w30 liqui moly, and what a difference it made. the engine pulled much smoother. no more valve clatter especially on cold starts. literally consumes no oil. it genuinely transformed the motor and you can FEEL it operating better, happier. it just feels smoother and more solid.

we switched to 5w30 mainly due to the oil consumption problem which is now non exsistent, but 0w is death to rod bearings. I appreciate you politely stating your point without being an egotistical moron like everybody else on these forums,but I strongly suggest you read up on the cafe requirements. its important that you know about this.

cheers

[Z K]

Originally Posted by STR8-6IX

I would use something thicker on the s65. maybe not 10w60 unless its a very hot track day, but not much thinner then that. man, its what the engineers specify. I would NOT be messing with their recommendations.

I use 5w40 shell rotella in my N52 and the car loved it compared to 5w30.

we were using 0w20 castrol and once tried mobil 1 in my dads mazda and it ate through a whole quart within 5000 miles. it consumed oil much less with castrol (which isnt much better then mobil 1, but still better)

then we made the switch to 5w30 liqui moly, and what a difference it made. the engine pulled much smoother. no more valve clatter especially on cold starts. literally consumes no oil. it genuinely transformed the motor and you can FEEL it operating better, happier. it just feels smoother and more solid.

we switched to 5w30 mainly due to the oil consumption problem which is now non exsistent, but 0w is death to rod bearings. I appreciate you politely stating your point without being an egotistical moron like everybody else on these forums,but I strongly suggest you read up on the cafe requirements. its important that you know about this.

cheers

It's a very different car and engine than the S65.

The S65 is well known to have rod bearing issues due to insufficient rod bearing clearance. Aftermarket companies such as BE bearings and VAC make extra clearance bearings to address this issue. BMW messed up in designing the engine. That's why running a lighter oil is beneficial for lubrication on stock bearings.

[STR8-6IX]

Originally Posted by Z K

It's a very different car and engine than the S65.

The S65 is well known to have rod bearing issues due to insufficient rod bearing clearance. Aftermarket companies such as BE bearings and VAC make extra clearance bearings to address this issue. BMW messed up in designing the engine. That's why running a lighter oil is beneficial for lubrication on stock bearings.

high clearance = requirement for thicker oil (you can make an assumption on what the clearance looks like for the s65 if it is spec'ed for 10w60 oil)

manufacturers increasing clearance of aftermarket bearings DOES NOT = thinner oil. its the other way around.

[STR8-6IX]

Originally Posted by Typer0318

well, let me call u, i am not gay and sorrie shouldnt

feel like writing an essay here


tho i will be more careful as writing biz email next time

and

for those inputs! much thanks!!!
u know soon i will be back to 60.
thinking of omega 788 sth cost like $500, here!

did this thread seriously just go from an oil conversation to you talking about sexual orientation?

I mean.. I always though asians were weird, and you are not helping my point. its OK buddy, we all know you're gay. no need to hide it any longer.

[R3dliner]

Originally Posted by STR8-6IX

did this thread seriously just go from an oil conversation to you talking about sexual orientation?

I mean.. I always though asians were weird, and you are not helping my point. its OK buddy, we all know you're gay. no need to hide it any longer.

The OP is retarded.
He probably likes to hit up the whore houses a lot.

Hey now I'm Asian so what you trying to stereotype?
You Canadians say abouuut, ehhhhhhh?, proucess, but I don't discriminate
If you think "Asians" as a whole are weird you got issues buddy. Last time I checked Toronto was full of them.
Every Canadian I've met was cool ass shit but maybe you're the latter

[dparm]

Originally Posted by R3dliner

I heard somewhere mobil 1 isn't a true synthetic but a blended oil.

All "synthetic" oils do contain some non-synthetic content, and vice-versa. This gives you the best of both (all?) worlds. Mobil 1 is a synthetic oil.

Don't get too hung up on base oil chemistry, it's just one piece of the overall picture.

[Z K]

Originally Posted by STR8-6IX

high clearance = requirement for thicker oil (you can make an assumption on what the clearance looks like for the s65 if it is spec'ed for 10w60 oil)

manufacturers increasing clearance of aftermarket bearings DOES NOT = thinner oil. its the other way around.

You have it wrong. BMW set rod bearings that are too small clearance for the weight of the oil. It is a design mistake that BMW did. There's many threads and information on this.

The aftermarket is trying to fix the BMW rod bearings by using extra clearance bearings. If you change the rod bearings, you can use 10w60 no problem. On a stock car, not a good idea.

Lots of information on BMW's fuck up:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=892838