6 Center Console buttons???

BimmerM · 12-23-2010, 10:42 PM

I know I'm being nick picky about this...I know should enjoy the car (which I am and will), but I like to see a complete dash and not fake buttons...

The car is a 2011 E92 M3 that I just took delivery today.

See image below...

Buttons 1 & 6: Why did they move the heated seat buttons up to the climate control area? Of the other BMWs I have owned in the past (or still own today), the heated seat button has always been down there...

Button 2: I will assume this is the PDC button that is only available in Europe since we in the US do not get front PDC as an option.

Button 3: Ok, this is the rear roller sun blinds

Button 4: This is probably the hill decent button that is only available on the automatic 3 series?

Button 5: Ok, this is the auto start / stop button

If they left the heated seats where they were then it wouldn't appear to have so many fake buttons. I can understand buttons 2 & 4 but why 1 & 6. Perhaps due to the new auto start / stop button?

Oh well, that's all I had to say and get off my chest. Now time to enjoy this awesome machine.

mdosu · 12-23-2010, 11:52 PM

good question, I always wondered myself. But I have an 08 where my seat heaters are in 1 and 6 position.
You're correct about the front PDC button position, and obviously the sunshade button.

BobsM3Coupe · 12-24-2010, 01:23 AM

Glad I have a 2010 model year. That panel where your car has the buttons, on my car is just a black plain panel. Nice clean look.

freshwhite335 · 12-24-2010, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Glad I have a 2010 model year. That panel where your car has the buttons, on my car is just a black plain panel. Nice clean look.

If you had ordered the rear sunshade you would have the sunshade button and then the fake buttons.

I agree about the change, I preferred the buttons all on the bottom. My E90 335 had the old style, where if you had heated seats and the rear sunshade there were no fake buttons. Just the three you needed and space in between. I understand BMW's logic in placing the heated seat controls with the climate control but they should have engineered a better solution for the sunshade button if they were dead set on moving the seat heater buttons.

BimmerM · 12-24-2010, 05:49 AM

Glad you all agree with me. When I was going through all the options at the dealer I was like what the hell happened to the heated seats? Did they forget? Since I naturally looked at the bottom center console buttons as that's where it is for most BMWs from the last billion years. LOL.

Perhaps a front PDC retrofit is in order (if it's not too expensive). I don't think it would be easy to move the heated seats down though, that will be costly to swap the HVAC controls and console buttons. Oh well, just live with this small gripe, at least the rest of the car is freaking awesome to outweight this tiny visual flaw.

I did a search after my post and found this other thread that discussed this already: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=371091

PKL · 12-24-2010, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by freshwhite335

If you had ordered the rear sunshade you would have the sunshade button and then the fake buttons.

So if you did NOT order the rear sunshade all these fake buttons won't be there?

Or they will?

dirtyfreebooter · 12-24-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PKL

So if you did NOT order the rear sunshade all these fake buttons won't be there?

Or they will?

Correct me if I am wrong, but for 2011, auto start/stop feature is now standard, so for 2011 models, it would seem like that button panel will be there no matter what options one selects now. The choices are a single button (auto start/stop), or two buttons (auto start/stop and power rear sunshade).

All others unused, which I personally think sucks. Looks like I bought the discount M without any options, LOL :-)

Wah · 12-24-2010, 10:20 AM

I have a 2011 with no buttons. Just a black panel.

sameh · 12-24-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wah

I have a 2011 with no buttons. Just a black panel.

Ditto. But mine is an old 2011 not the new and improved 2011.5

BKMK5 · 12-24-2010, 10:24 AM

The "rest" function is still available through the menus correct?

BimmerM · 12-24-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by robackja

Correct me if I am wrong, but for 2011, auto start/stop feature is now standard, so for 2011 models, it would seem like that button panel will be there no matter what options one selects now. The choices are a single button (auto start/stop), or two buttons (auto start/stop and power rear sunshade).

All others unused, which I personally think sucks. Looks like I bought the discount M without any options, LOL :-)

Yup, starting Sept 2010 builds the auto start/stop is standard. So like you said, that panel with either 5 or 4 blank buttons will be there no matter what.

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Originally Posted by BKMK5

The "rest" function is still available through the menus correct?

What's the rest function?

stevenross · 12-24-2010, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Glad I have a 2010 model year. That panel where your car has the buttons, on my car is just a black plain panel. Nice clean look.

i have an 11.5 and i sincerely dislike the fact that i have buttons on a performance car that are not functional.. i would have been much happier with a black plain panel or buttons that are functional..

just my opinion

kickdown · 12-24-2010, 03:30 PM

They moved the heated seat buttons because of the F25 X3, which has no such console and the HVAC control is the same, so the buttons should have been somewhere. Number 2 is the front PDC turn on. Number 4 is the HDC for the x-drive models.
The only two cars I've ever seen with all the buttons were:
One of the first LCI-s 320d Xdrive with MT and 120d Cabrio MT where buttons 3 & 4 are roof up and roof down.
Here in Europe there is still a chance to get all the buttons and the options are:
320d xdrive MT with Manual AC and no Navi + front and rear PDC and Roller Sun Blind
or cabrio 118d/120d/123d or 118i/120i with manual AC and Heated Seats

motortrend · 12-24-2010, 04:05 PM

The 2011 (2011.5?) model here has that completely empty, I don't know why but it did not come with auto start stop nor the M mode that people said 2011.5 would automatically have

drvai · 12-24-2010, 04:09 PM

What's the big deal????

M3maniac20 · 12-24-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by drvai

What's the big deal????

+1

BobsM3Coupe · 12-24-2010, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshwhite335

If you had ordered the rear sunshade you would have the sunshade button and then the fake buttons.
.

True, but I didn't want the sunshade since those things overtime tend to rattle and not funtion properly.

motosan · 12-26-2010, 03:59 AM

What about the fog light button that my 325 has???? Oh no, M doesn't come with fog lights... That was a bummer to me (for real, not teasing...)

FatboyB · 04-15-2011, 03:14 PM

Hi all,

does anybody know how to turn off this automatic start-stop function permanently ?

Thanks for your help.

Crimson92 · 04-15-2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FatboyB

Hi all,

does anybody know how to turn off this automatic start-stop function permanently ?

Thanks for your help.

its off by default in the US.

In europe its on by default.

I believe you can turn it off via coding.

tlp · 04-15-2011, 03:39 PM

All 2011.5+ will have the button bar regards of options due to the auto engine on/off button. The only remaining implementation on a US spec car would be the addition of the rear sun shade button as an optioned item. I like the fact that they moved the heated seats to the HVAC controls...much more logical.

SamS · 04-15-2011, 03:40 PM

If you don't order heated seats, what happens to the buttons in the auto-climate-control section as detailed in the OP's picture?

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kickdown Private 0 Rep 73 Posts Drives: BMW 320dA Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria iTrader: (0)	They moved the heated seat buttons because of the F25 X3, which has no such console and the HVAC control is the same, so the buttons should have been somewhere. Number 2 is the front PDC turn on. Number 4 is the HDC for the x-drive models. The only two cars I've ever seen with all the buttons were: One of the first LCI-s 320d Xdrive with MT and 120d Cabrio MT where buttons 3 & 4 are roof up and roof down. Here in Europe there is still a chance to get all the buttons and the options are: 320d xdrive MT with Manual AC and no Navi + front and rear PDC and Roller Sun Blind or cabrio 118d/120d/123d or 118i/120i with manual AC and Heated Seats __________________ Diesel Power Europe German forum: You ask a question and you get an answer. US Forum: You ask a question, you get an answer and you are asked back another question. Bulgarian Forum: You ask a question...5 people starts explaining you how dumb you are, for asking such a stupid question!!!
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