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      09-24-2018, 07:57 PM   #5721
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LOL I've been watching Allyn since I first bought my house 2 years ago. didn't realize what it takes to keep the lawn looking good. I've got about 20k so I use about 10 bags of Milo. I think i'm pretty much done with the weeds this year since winter is around the corner and the grass should be going dormant soon. I did a better job this year than last year as last year I had no clue WTF I was doing I'm getting better but i'd rather put the money in my BMW but cheese and rice lawn maintenance gets expensive too especially when you have to buy lawn equipment. just bought that battery powered Ryobi BackPack sprayer someone here mentioned as the 4 gallon manual back pack sprayer I use is just too much labor
Lawn looks good. Yeah, the start up cost sucks. I haven't even gotten to getting a mower yet which is bad and good. Trying to be smart about what I get now to minimize cost and still be useful later (eg my GorillaCart can be used as a pull accessory).
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Lawn looks good. Yeah, the start up cost sucks. I haven't even gotten to getting a mower yet which is bad and good. Trying to be smart about what I get now to minimize cost and still be useful later (eg my GorillaCart can be used as a pull accessory).
Best choice by far is my Husqvarna tractor. My first year I used a push mower which took 3 hours to cut 20k lawn. Now it takes 45 min. Also I'm saving from renting the mechanical aerator and dethatchers as now all I have to do is use the attachments and pull it from behind. Instead of pushing my Scott's broadcast spreader on foot I pull a Brinly Spreader. So much easier and less energy
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LOL I've been watching Allyn since I first bought my house 2 years ago. didn't realize what it takes to keep the lawn looking good. I've got about 20k so I use about 10 bags of Milo. I think i'm pretty much done with the weeds this year since winter is around the corner and the grass should be going dormant soon. I did a better job this year than last year as last year I had no clue WTF I was doing I'm getting better but i'd rather put the money in my BMW but cheese and rice lawn maintenance gets expensive too especially when you have to buy lawn equipment. just bought that battery powered Ryobi BackPack sprayer someone here mentioned as the 4 gallon manual back pack sprayer I use is just too much labor
Lawn looks good. Yeah, the start up cost sucks. I haven't even gotten to getting a mower yet which is bad and good. Trying to be smart about what I get now to minimize cost and still be useful later (eg my GorillaCart can be used as a pull accessory).
Ive been thinking about the economics of this as I see these lawn care equipment purchases. Is maintaining the lawn a labor of love, or a cost saving measure? Seems like the former when time is considered. Is a landscaper that much more expensive?

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Ive been thinking about the economics of this as I see these lawn care equipment purchases. Is maintaining the lawn a labor of love, or a cost saving measure? Seems like the former when time is considered. Is a landscaper that much more expensive?

Disclaimer: city boy living in a condo here.
I think it's the love of owning a home and being a DIY'er. I could pay a lawn maintenance or I could fo it myself. To me it's the enjoyment. Until I physically can't do it, then I'll pay. But for now I do it cause of the enjoyment
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DAYUMN!!!! Now THAT'S a detailing supply!

This creeper has a storage bin to hold a few items. Definitely need it to save my back!
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Ive been thinking about the economics of this as I see these lawn care equipment purchases. Is maintaining the lawn a labor of love, or a cost saving measure? Seems like the former when time is considered. Is a landscaper that much more expensive?

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I think it's the love of owning a home and being a DIY'er. I could pay a lawn maintenance or I could fo it myself. To me it's the enjoyment. Until I physically can't do it, then I'll pay. But for now I do it cause of the enjoyment
No worries, glenn. IMHO, it can be a cost savings and/or a labor of love depending on the situation. It just depends on how far down the rabbit hole you go.

For reference, it costs me $45 to have my lawn mowed/trimmed. If I wasn't using a company that already did 3 other nearby lawns, that'd cost would go up. If I got a mid-ish range riding mower for 2k, it'd pay for itself in less than 2 mowing seasons and I have better control over when/how my lawn is mowed.

Double pass core aerating & split seeding the back & sides + single pass aerating in front was something like around $700 after some 'discounts'. I could rent a manual core aerator for a couple hundred bucks a day (but have to transport it). A towed spike aerator is about the same cost to own. Not quite apples/apples, but still. One could split the cost of a rental w/ neighbors but my neighborhood is acre lots so I'd need more neighbors to buy-in to make it worthwhile.

It is arguable how often one aerates and really needs to overseed but landscaping isn't necessarily cheap. For reference, my cost #'s are for approx 32k sq ft of yard.

Note, too, that I haven't even gotten to fertilizing and weed control.

Buying equipment for it all definitely costs more upfront, but if it is used regularly over time it will pay itself off. Plus, not taking care of your lawn can lead to other expenses. Again, how far down the rabbit hole you go also makes a difference, too.
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Nice! I was gonna do the same in my garage but missed the sale at Lowe's for these. Those LED strip lights are pretty expensive for what they are.

I will go the lazy way since I have no desire to to tear up the ceiling to run conduit (joists are perpendicular to where I need to run pipe). I'll just run it externally and paint to match the ceiling. I just have a single exposed bulb fixture in each car bay now so it won't be too bad. Might replace the bulb fixtures w/ 4' strips and do a perpendicular 8' strip (a few feet away) for each bay.
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Lol it's what happens when you're on Chemical Guy's website and a credit card in hand LOL!
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Nice! I was gonna do the same in my garage but missed the sale at Lowe's for these. Those LED strip lights are pretty expensive for what they are.

I will go the lazy way since I have no desire to to tear up the ceiling to run conduit (joists are perpendicular to where I need to run pipe). I'll just run it externally and paint to match the ceiling. I just have a single exposed bulb fixture in each car bay now so it won't be too bad. Might replace the bulb fixtures w/ 4' strips and do a perpendicular 8' strip (a few feet away) for each bay.
That's what I previously had. A single lightbulb fixture in each bay. All I did was buy the lightbulb adapter that allows you to plug in an electrical plug so that's where the LED plugs into. So from the picture that's the light towards the back of the garage. And than I removed the bulbs from the garage door opener unit and did the same thing but I scooted the LED's further down that way I have even coverage from front to back. The lights turn on automatically when I open the garage and they automatically turn off after I think 2 min? But what's cool is in the garage control unit there's a smaller button I can hit to turn the light on individually or have all 6 on like as seen
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No worries, glenn. IMHO, it can be a cost savings and/or a labor of love depending on the situation. It just depends on how far down the rabbit hole you go.

For reference, it costs me $45 to have my lawn mowed/trimmed. If I wasn't using a company that already did 3 other nearby lawns, that'd cost would go up. If I got a mid-ish range riding mower for 2k, it'd pay for itself in less than 2 mowing seasons and I have better control over when/how my lawn is mowed.

Double pass core aerating & split seeding the back & sides + single pass aerating in front was something like around $700 after some 'discounts'. I could rent a manual core aerator for a couple hundred bucks a day (but have to transport it). A towed spike aerator is about the same cost to own. Not quite apples/apples, but still. One could split the cost of a rental w/ neighbors but my neighborhood is acre lots so I'd need more neighbors to buy-in to make it worthwhile.

It is arguable how often one aerates and really needs to overseed but landscaping isn't necessarily cheap. For reference, my cost #'s are for approx 32k sq ft of yard.

Note, too, that I haven't even gotten to fertilizing and weed control.

Buying equipment for it all definitely costs more upfront, but if it is used regularly over time it will pay itself off. Plus, not taking care of your lawn can lead to other expenses. Again, how far down the rabbit hole you go also makes a difference, too.
I have 20k of lawn so the lawn maintenance quoted me like $600 for the month which didn't include weed/bug spray or any kind of fertilizing. All could be done but with additional cost. Aerating just like you mentioned would have to be rented from HD. So I think in the long run I would be saving since the cost of all the equipment would pay off in the first year. I see me doing this myself for at least 20 more years
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