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213E OEM software: The best NA mod...
...for older cars that haven't been updated!
EDIT: It's 231E, not 213E. Sorry about that. A $95 flash to the newest completely OEM software version netted me 22 HP! The long story is that I took my '08 to Tom at EAS to get the Evolve tune. He read my software and sent if to Sal. The next week, I came back to have it uploaded and to get a before and after dyno. The before dyno put down a disappointing 349.74 WHP. I have a filter, pulley, and "full exhaust" with HFC. The Evolve tune based on my files showed good gains of more than 18 HP but I was still disappointed with 368.34 WHP with my mods and a tune. Tom suggested that I may have old software but he couldn't see what version I had. By pulling my service history, we discovered that there was no sign of an update. For $95, Tom flashed my car from the old software (100E IIRC) with Evolve tune to a completely stock version of the latest software (231E). The car put down 372.12 WHP with the new stock software! Nothing was changed besides the software, the conditions were the same, it was flashed with the car strapped to the dyno. Tom re-read the new software and sent it to Sal at Evolve to be re-tuned. I'm hoping for ~390 WHP with the new software! The moral of this story is, make sure you have the latest software before you get a tune! Especially if your '08 has never been updated!
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Interesting. Why would BMW switch the tune unless internals changed? We aren't talking slight tweaks but a significant change. Thanks for posting.
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Anyone who is not local to a tuner will have to pay a BMW dealer to update the software, I think. They may charge more than $95.
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I would consider these to be slight weaks though. The car is making 5% more power, not a huge amount but definitely noticeable. The software is the reason IMO that people generally believe the later cars to be stronger.
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Forgive my ignorance but I'm a little lost. Why does it matter what version of software your car has if it's going to be tuned by an aftermarket company? I thought once a car was being tuned the tuner was able to do whatever he pleased to the computer
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Very interesting. This would prove very beneficial to my piggy-back ECU which uses the OEM DME. Why does tomorrow have to be Sunday?
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This is also something that I was curious about.
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I am so hoping this is the issue with my 08. I believe tuners like Evolve and ESS offer remote tuning so if you are up for buying the cable you can get them to update it remotely.
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Where would one get the cable and how much is an updated oem tune from our vendors? I'd love to check my software version as well.
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+3. Why do you need the latest OEM file when you're paying for the tune?
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EAS charges $95 to update the software. The tune is based off of your particular software on the your particular DME. If you have the old software, your tune will be a modified version of that. From what I can tell, the new software produces gains via tweaks in areas that the tuners don't modify. So you want the new version AND the tuners modifications to make the most power.
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I would consider these to be slight weaks though. The car is making 5% more power, not a huge amount but definitely noticeable. The software is the reason IMO that people generally believe the later cars to be stronger.
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Can the dealer print out service records for free ? I bought my car used and I am curious if it's been updated or not...
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They won't update it unless there is an identifiable issue (some sort of CODE, CEL, misfire, etc.) You can pay them to do it though.
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While this software doesn't fix any major driveability issues (AFAIK) the car does seem to run much better. It starts better, idles better, etc. That could be placebo though lol!
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I feel like that's kinda crap that BMW doesn't just let all M owners have the newest software for free. I would think they would want each and every M car out there to be running at its best. It's probably unlikely that every owner would even take advantage of the update but to those that would like it, why not make it free?
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