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      04-15-2008, 06:56 PM   #1
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Rant: Dealer BS or am i asking for too much?? -- Drama Warning

in short, the day i got the car my CA had me purchase the floor mats at her cost. Most dealers throw that shit in for free + give u a few BMW shits. i got like 100 worth of BMW crap + floor mats + a gift card when i got my 335, same when i got my infiniti. i never even argued with her, i just paid, done.

now when i got to the car meet on friday John noticed i have the 07 navigation disc. Simon (E90SLAM) handed me a copy of his 2008, so it's already available and he obviously has it.

now watch and tell me if what im asking is too much

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No i did not. I am coming today, does that work?

BTW, the navigation disc that I have is the 2007 one, I thought the car comes with the 08, is there a way i can get the 08?
I'll be at the dealer in an hour, who do i talk to?

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07 may be the newest version. I'll check.
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Hello,

Any news on Navigation DVD? i got a letter from BMW indicating it's available.
When can I pick up my floor mats btw?

The other thing is the car that I got from you got so much attention and I had to direct people your way, most are interested in what you have on the lot.

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The 2008 nav disc just became available about one week ago and only car produced in that time frame will have the 08 version.

Your car was produced over one month ago, therefore, your car came with the 07.

Checking on your mats, will let you know.

Thanks for the referrals. It makes my day.
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Mats are backordered two weeks. Sorry!
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Okay thanks, although i honestly feel pretty bummed having to buy both floor mats and a navigation disc on a brand new 70k dollar car. Crevier probably needs to re-consider that since it only leaves a bitter taste in customer mouths while it doesnt really cost a thing.

Please let me know when I can pick up the mats.

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I am already checking to see if I can exchange the nav disc, but none are in yet because they were just released.

M3 mats aren't even here yet, but I'll see if we can get those covered for you when you come in.

Please keep in mind that you got a super great deal on your M3.

I have a customer that is dying to see the interior on your car. He wants to order it in the convertible. Perhaps you could consider letting him see it when you are around.
now this car deal was split between 2 CA's at crevier, santa ana. so i thought of sending a PM to the other CA since he's here on the forum. this is what it says:

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man i just picked up a $70k car and got an old navigation disc + had to pay for floor mats. what's wrong with crevier man? i got floor mats, 100 dollar worth of bmw crap + 100 gift car when i got 335 and that's 20k cheaper at another dealer. i got that when i bought an infiniti even

i've bought 3 cars in the past 2 years never ever had to even think they wouldnt throw this stuff in. i talk to Teri and she pretty much tells me to STFU coz i got a great deal on the car, great deal = MSRP btw.

i am being stopped on the street and asked about my car how am i going to recommend you guys to anyone if this is the kind of treatment they will be getting?

im gonna wait and see what she can do for me, i hope she does the right thing. im just venting to you since you got 1/2 of the deal.
any thoughts? am i being stupid (other than actually being nice and paying for floor mats without negotiating that?)

that's what happens when ur too nice to a dealer. OMG. she's telling me to shut up coz she sold me a car at MSRP (great deal??) and she wants me to show my car to her customers so she can make money. what kind of shit deal is this?

i hope she does the right thing, if she does what u guys think i should do??

note that i didnt ask her to give me that shit for free. i said is there anyway i can get it! she could have said yes come buy it, i would have gone and bought it
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      04-15-2008, 06:58 PM   #2
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i have already referred 5 people just on here to go to her. i even told my brother to get his m5 from her, that's besides the people who stopped me on the street and asked
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5 referrals and no mats?! I can slap her for you
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so violent angela i'll do the slapping this time
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so violent angela i'll do the slapping this time
Dang, let me know when your hands hurt
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F*CK that! only Cali has the shit as MSRP=Great Deal....

If you getting ///M cars (even E92 M3) somewhere else in United States....u get it at MSRP for sure...so such thing as "mark ups".....

as for 2008.1 NAV DVD...can't she just say "we don't have any in stock right now, I'll secure one for you once we have it available?" i mean...c'mon...its 200 bucks compare to ur 70K car....and urs is not like built Nov 2007 or earlier.....its brand new built two months ago!
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      04-15-2008, 07:07 PM   #7
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and there's a difference on carper/all weather mats for non-M and M3 E9Xs???
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Tell her to f*ck off when she's trying to use your car as a display....
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Why would you refer her if she sucked?

Great deal at MSRP ... what a joke. Say you refer her but you warn people about having to pay for floor mats.

Shit, I hope my mats are free.
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she's been good all past 3 months man, i dont know why she wants to piss me off before i send her survey thing in. not wise at all.

see how nice i am? damn! she wants to walk all over me now.

btw are you tracking ur car using the 800 #? coz it says in ur profile oc.bmwusa.com which sucks for tracking
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maybe u should consider ur referrals to other dealers....
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i'll see how she gonna deal with it. otherwise hell yah i'll make sure no one ever goes to crevier ever again...
im not pissed that i had to pay as much as her telling me 07 is the latest at first, then making a deal out of it... THEN tell me to STFU coz i got a "great deal"
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i'll see how she gonna deal with it. otherwise hell yah i'll make sure no one ever goes to crevier ever again...
im not pissed that i had to pay as much as her telling me 07 is the latest at first, then making a deal out of it... THEN tell me to STFU coz i got a "great deal"
yea...that bugs me too....i've put some of my thoughs at socal chat..
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she's been good all past 3 months man, i dont know why she wants to piss me off before i send her survey thing in. not wise at all.

see how nice i am? damn! she wants to walk all over me now.

btw are you tracking ur car using the 800 #? coz it says in ur profile oc.bmwusa.com which sucks for tracking
Oh that "oc thing all day" is a joke ... haha. I'm on the GRUS (hopefully). I think she'll eventually throw them in.
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Mantis,
I just picked up my car and it also has the 07 disc. I called my CA and he was cool he just told me to come down and they will hook me up. I will let you know if LB bmw has them in yet.
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Your salesperson sucks. F her. Don't refer her shit. Tell her if she wants your sales she can fork out a few bucks out of her pocket to pay for your disc and mats. Maybe you should remind her that she is making money off of you and your refs. People like this piss me off. They want you to give them business, so they can make money, but don't want to give you shit. Well nothing except MSRP. Wow, wooptefucking do!!
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My post on the other thread:
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The 2008 nav disc just became available about one week ago and only car produced in that time frame will have the 08 version.

Your car was produced over one month ago, therefore, your car came with the 07.

Checking on your mats, will let you know.

Thanks for the referrals. It makes my day.
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Okay thanks Teri, although i honestly feel pretty bummed having to buy a navigation disc on a brand new 70k dollar car. Crevier probably needs to re-consider that since it only leaves a bitter taste in customer mouths while it doesnt really cost a thing.

Please let me know when I can pick up the mats.

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I am already checking to see if I can exchange the nav disc, but none are in yet because they were just released.

M3 mats aren't even here yet, but I'll see if we can get those covered for you when you come in.

Please keep in mind that you got a super great deal on your M3.

I have a customer that is dying to see the interior on your car. He wants to order it in the convertible. Perhaps you could consider letting him see it when you are around.
It is my understanding that the Dealer puts in the DVD disc at the time of arrival. That is what happened with me and others I know. The car is not shipped from Germany with the U.S. DVD Navi disc. It is not in there at the VPC either. There is a worry of theft if that does happen. When I received my car the Navi DVD was brand new, they took it out of the packaging, and put it in the car. Therefore, the DVD disc date is dependent on when you receive your car and not when the car was "produced." Her theory simply does not add up.

She wants you to come in out of your time to show the interior, she needs to give u the dvd. "Scratch my back and I'll scratch yours applies."
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the dvd nav is understandable (unfortunately )..... but the floormats? wtf, they better be free
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man you're worrying me, I just put an order in with Nabil at Crevier. I expect good customer service and if they aren't gonna provide then I'll take my order somewhere else.
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Be blunt. No disc, no showing the car, no more referrals.

You're not being unreasonable. The car is a 2008, it should come with the disc marked 2008. The 2007 disc was probably made in 2006. I'm not sure what the dealer/manufacturer cost of the disc is but BMW should have purchased a 2008 disc for every car with a 2008 date and certainly one that was produced partway through the 2008 production cycle (even if it was at the beginning of the M3 production cycle).
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Damn i'm going to check my disc as well to see what year I got. I too will go down to the dealer to see about the M floor mats. Man you said she was nice to you all the way until you bought your car, now this? That sux
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