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RG, I don't think Mike was trying to discredit you. Probably he's looking for answers and clarification just like me or any other respected member on this board. Keep in mind he's a tuner and not an engine builder, and you're vica versa. We need to respect each other which I think is very important has been lacking lately. I am sure we'll call it quits here please Mike and RG. Thank you very much.
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What he said...
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This thread has had its problems with a small handful of people trying to put words into my (and other's) mouths. Some are accidental, others are intentional. I'm not going to judge Mike's as intentional. However, it's one thing to have an interpretation, it's another thing to make something up that wasn't there in the first place and try to put it in somebody's mouth. Mike presents himself to this forum as an expert and perfectionist -- always correcting people with little gotcha comments -- comments that are often wrong themselves...like this one from earlier today. To the man who demands perfection from others, perfection should be expected of him. |
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You can consider it a "gotcha" comment, but it was simply accurately stating what is in the owners manual (which you suggested that he reference). Accuracy is important, especially when measuring bearings. My comment was not incorrect, it was a cut and paste from the BMW manual. Edit: it appears BMW added 0w-40 in later manuals. The fact that they have continuously added new oils that are suitable every year supports the conclusion that they are not doing that as a "fix" because they messed something up. I'm pretty sure most people that read your comment about "BMW messing it up twice" took it the same exact way that I did. Please let it rest. It would be nice to see a concise general summary of what you've learned so far in your research on this matter.
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This is where active moderation is required. Not sitting behind the scene and banning people for petty comments.
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I know I've mentioned this before, but the "Clevite spec" really isn't the Clevite spec. That same "spec" can be found in multiple engine design books, some I believe going back many decades. I think I've found three different books that mention it long before Clevite put it in a PDF file. Quote:
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You mentioned to PM. So I PMed you in an effort to put an end to this childish back and forth, and gain clarification on what you said was incorrect that I said about can bus. You replied not to PM you again that you would report me. Very classy.
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I think you got confused because you took two different posts of mine in the same thread and combined them into a single topic. The first was my comments about BMW "chasing something" and my second was with respect to "top-off" oils. They are two separate topics that are unrelated. It's an honest mistake IMO...no harm, no foul. Quote:
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Here is some good news for all the skeptics out there. Nearly 64k from an 08' and clean as a whistle!
For all those that are running 0W40, I think your madd! FYI DINAN recommends Total 10W60 for their stroker motors. If a company who is developing a 700bhp race version S65 for Tudor racing series, recommends running 10W60 on their "street" builds, I certainly would take that with more then a grain of salt... Personally I think all the failures we hear about come from tolerance differences with mass production. There is nothing wrong with the design of the S65.
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Loosen up
Alright Alright....
Some peeps in this thread should relax and just take in all data and knowledge within 81 pages! I myself have learned more than I ever wanted to know about bearings and clearances! LOL!
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Interestingly, when I brought my car into the Dinan center, I asked if they would change my oil using 0w-40. The SA checked back with corporate and under no uncertain terms, said to absolutely continue to use 10w-60 and that if I wanted to use 0W-40, I'd have to get it changed somewhere else, ie they would not do it. When I asked why, I got no answer and they said that someone from corporate would get back to me to explain why. Still have yet to hear from them.
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Larry how can I get anything productive done when I keep laughing my ass off at these?
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