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01-11-2009, 05:26 PM | #67 | |
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If it's wrong tell me why my car hasn't slipped off the road?
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Luck - trust me it's not driving skill. See my prior posts on this. As I said, keep at it, but don't be surprised if one day they back should shudder...It may be the roads you are on are OK, etc. But you're gambling and perhaps thinking it's down to driving skill. It's not.
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If you're not speeding there's no way you're going to slide off public roads, unless you hit ice or snow. So I guess you're right in the fact that it doesn't take skill. It just takes a little brains and common sense to not drive like an idiot. Granted there are much better tires for cold weather driving. But the posts on here act as if you're driving on ice with PS2s in the cold and only luck can keep you on the road, both of which are far from true.
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01-11-2009, 10:53 PM | #74 |
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sorry about your car man, but the first thing about M cars is you need to learn how to drive them. It is not the tires, it is the driver ... I drove many cars which didn't have DSC and with the shitty tires on the snow or ice and never crashed one ... I hope you are ok !
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thanks doba, hope my insurance doesn't get hiked up too much.
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sometimes it gets pretty cold, into the upper 60's and they still grip pretty good
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It was called sarcasm. I find it funny like the guy above saying they are fine until you heat them up. Why? Because you can't heat them up under 40 unless you drive around the block and brake like a maniac, which you can't do...If you don't know why, you don't understand, as I implied. I find it hilarious when I see people in their street cars weaving back and forth apparently thinking they are putting heat in their tires like in formula cars they watch on TV. Clueless...
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Like with any High Performance Tires, you should get them warmed up before doing any high spirited driving. They are soft compound tires and require some heat for the ruber to stick. I have a 2004 Yamaha R1 and the tires are soft compound and of the same compound of that on the M3, it will take me a few minutes to get them warm, I ride my bike at 30 deg. and after being warmed, they will stick.
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I agree with you, but I never said that I drove on PS2s on the snow or ice. My point is that you can't blame tires for what happened ... |
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I ride an '04 GSX-R750, the coldest it gets here is like 60's, and that's cold for me!
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Condolences to MrHarris on the accident. The PS2's are definitely dicey on cold roads. These tires should not be used below 40 degrees if you can help it. Even a moment of inattention or injudicious throttle application *could* lead to an accident, because the tires have very little safety margin in cold weather. One of the most talented drivers I know totaled his car on PS2's in North Carolina. There was a little patch of snow and he happened to hit it while turning. At that point, he was just along for the ride.
So for those who are driving your PS2's in the winter and surviving, congratulations on your good fortune and careful driving, but be aware that you have a very slim margin for error. It is like walking a tightrope everyday when there is a bridge available.
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I recently tracked with a E60 on PS2's, in 35 degree weather and can definitely attest to Ben's remarks. It took a good 3-4 warm up laps and even so the tires never really got sticky enough to push the car at its limits. Only when the weather warm up to 45 degrees (with warm up laps) did the PS2's start sticking. In 45 degree weather I doubt that the PS2's would ever warm up to its full potential on the streets. Summer tires sure do feel like ice skates in the winter. So sorry to hear about your loss, hope insurance takes care of you.
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Another thing that has not been mentioned is that braking distance is increased a lot..It's not just wheels slipping people, it's braking distance too. When you lose grip that goes up.. |
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Oh I think pretty much everyone gets it. PS2 under 40 degree weather = drive extremely carefully. Obviously if there is any snow falling or on the ground DO NOT drive the car with summer tires. But if it is dry out then the PS2 or summer tires pose little problems unless you have a lead foot. I drove this morning to work (about 1.5 miles) in fog with temps at 33. I did not experience any problems at all with the PS2 but I did drive like a grandma.
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