U.S. seats: will they be the same as the Euro seats?

[nusevad]

Originally Posted by Xcellere

Hey no comments from the peanut gallery! I have my tint scheduled the day I pick up the car. I know, I'm a sad individual.

Haha thats not bad, im going to have matte black grille, and Thunder GP 8K for AEs ready on the day i pick up my car.

[eclipsisNA]

Originally Posted by FifthStreetz

Haha thats not bad, im going to have matte black grille, and Thunder GP 8K for AEs ready on the day i pick up my car.

My matte black grille is already sitting in my closet alongside my GP 8500k.

[eclipsisNA]

I just spoke to the sales manager at South Bay BMW, he said he's going to get in touch with BMWNA to see if they can put the Euro seat bottoms in. I told him I'm buying a $70,000 car that has standard 3 series seats and I want exactly what I was told I was getting. It's not fair to the buyer to have the car show up as misrepresented.

[M2MG17]

I doubt that they will have the power to do that for you although it is very noble of your dealer to even try.

Please let us know what they say.

[eclipsisNA]

I need parts 1, 2, 4, and 6 that Greg pointed out a page ago. There are two options for Fox Red Option 4, which do I need: http://bmwfans.info/original/E92/Cou...ll-52_3430/#19

Seat cover leather

for vehicles with leather "novillo"/fuchs-red isofix-system leather "novillo"extended/fuchs-red and or
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Seat cover leather

for vehicles with leather "novillo"/fuchs-red leather "novillo"extended/fuchs-red or

[apw2607]

Originally Posted by Xcellere

I just spoke to the sales manager at South Bay BMW, he said he's going to get in touch with BMWNA to see if they can put the Euro seat bottoms in. I told him I'm buying a $70,000 that has standard 3 series seats and I want exactly what I was told I was getting. It's not fair to the buyer to have the car show up as misrepresented.

Please let us know how you get on with that ...

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by Xcellere

I need parts 1, 2, 4, and 6 that Greg pointed out a page ago. There are two options for Fox Red Option 4, which do I need: http://bmwfans.info/original/E92/Cou...ll-52_3430/#19

Seat cover leather

for vehicles with leather "novillo"/fuchs-red isofix-system leather "novillo"extended/fuchs-red and or
____________________________________

Seat cover leather

for vehicles with leather "novillo"/fuchs-red leather "novillo"extended/fuchs-red or

The difference is "isofix-system". Isofix is a child restraint system. Don't think it would apply to the front seats?

[Technic]

Originally Posted by Xcellere

I need parts 1, 2, 4, and 6 that Greg pointed out a page ago. There are two options for Fox Red Option 4, which do I need: http://bmwfans.info/original/E92/Cou...ll-52_3430/#19

Seat cover leather

for vehicles with leather "novillo"/fuchs-red isofix-system leather "novillo"extended/fuchs-red and or
____________________________________

Seat cover leather

for vehicles with leather "novillo"/fuchs-red leather "novillo"extended/fuchs-red or

I would wait until you car arrives before ordering any parts yet...

[rzm3]

maybe we should do a group buy?

[M2MG17]

I just spoke with some sources and about 1.5 year ago the US Safety standards was changed for seats in the event of a collision so that the front seats would not be too rigid and break apart if impacted.

This apparently caused a lot of manufacturers to change seat designs.

I am assuming that this is most likely the cause of the seats for the US bound M3's since it is not typical of BMW to offer different seats for US models. BMW NA obviously did not want to hold up the production of these cars just for seat bottoms which would hurt sales of the company so they found the temporary & immediate solution with the 335 sport seats.

My guess is that the euro seats will be available to US cars in 2009 models.

Hope this helps.

[nMd]

as ridiculous as it sounds, this almost makes me want to wait until the seats are standard to order. I would be seriously pissed off if next year they added the better seats. I love the way my seats are now in my m3, and I still slide around a bit, im only about 125lbs. Ill be all over the place in these lame 3series sport seats.

[chicagobimmerboy]

Happens to every high-perf euro car. Gallardo Superleggera, Aston Martin DBS, Porsche GT3-RS, M-B CLK Black Series, Audi RS4, R8. just to name a few. disapointing, all just because they dont have side airbags

[skierman64]

Any update on a group buy for the seat bottoms? If so, I'm in.

Perhaps we could get some of our European friend to help us out with this.

[skierman64]

I sat in the M3 today at the dealership. I was very dissapointed by the lateral support provided by the seat bottoms. There is more support in my wife's E36 328 convertible w/sport package than in the M3 seats.

I'm kinda bummed about it actually. Great car, lousy execution of the seat bottoms.

I really need to get the non-US seat bottoms. What did Canada get?

[spike357]

I just took delivery of my e92 M3 yesterday afternoon. Remember all the complaining about Euro seats being too tall? Well after putting 300 miles on the US spec car overnight, I have to say that I had no problem getting a great seating position. Yeah, they aren't quite as pretty, but that's my only complaint.

2008 AW e92 M3 6 sp
Carbon roof
Aluminum trim
19" wheels
Every option.

Spike357

[skierman64]

Spike, My comment was about the side bolsters of the seat bottom being too short with not enough lateral support for aggressive turning. However, I'm sure the seats are comfortable enough for long trips.

Can you explain what you mean by the complaints of the seats being too tall?

[!Xoible]

i havent read the whole thread. but the bottom of the seat is like 335's, but the top is like euro seats

[spike357]

Originally Posted by skierman64

Spike, My comment was about the side bolsters of the seat bottom being too short with not enough lateral support for aggressive turning. However, I'm sure the seats are comfortable enough for long trips.

Can you explain what you mean by the complaints of the seats being too tall?

Hi Skierman 64- It is true that I have not yet thrashed the living daylights out of the car, so I might change my opinion of the seats once I have. However, I have the same seat bottoms in my 06 330i w/ sport package, and that I have driven very hard with no problem with seat grip. Here are some links below that show you some of the complaints about seat height that I was talking about. Is it possible that BMW switched seat bottoms to fix this problem? Both of these links are reposts.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74991

http://http://www.autocar.co.uk/Vide...AR=229373&CT=V

[skierman64]

Spike, thanks for the reference, I wasn't aware of the seat height complaints. Perhaps BMW actually reads the threads and makes changes.

Wouldn't that be nice if it was actually true?

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by chasem3

I just spoke with some sources and about 1.5 year ago the US Safety standards was changed for seats in the event of a collision so that the front seats would not be too rigid and break apart if impacted.

This apparently caused a lot of manufacturers to change seat designs.

I am assuming that this is most likely the cause of the seats for the US bound M3's since it is not typical of BMW to offer different seats for US models. BMW NA obviously did not want to hold up the production of these cars just for seat bottoms which would hurt sales of the company so they found the temporary & immediate solution with the 335 sport seats.

My guess is that the euro seats will be available to US cars in 2009 models.

Hope this helps.

Not buyin' it. You mean 1.5" higher foam on the seat bolsters might degrade crashworthiness? BMW had to go through crash testing on this car. The Euro bolsters would (or could) have been part of that.

[Jack28]

Just the thought of us US M3's not getting the same seats as the Euro makes
me Furious!!!! This kinda shit pisses me off!!! Before I put my final order in,
Im going to have my SP find out if I can get the Euro Seat Bottom's and Sides!

Xceller, Did your SP get any answers from BMWNA regarding the Seats?

[hakaida442]

Originally Posted by Jack28

Just the thought of us US M3's not getting the same seats as the Euro makes
me Furious!!!! This kinda shit pisses me off!!! Before I put my final order in,
Im going to have my SP find out if I can get the Euro Seat Bottom's and Sides!

Xceller, Did your SP get any answers from BMWNA regarding the Seats?

The m3 seat isn't that different. You wanna feel really mad, buy a GT3 and get shafted on way better euro seats and a mandatory sunroof.