6MT clutch depression discussion

R3dliner · 09-30-2016, 01:00 PM

All my 6MT people. I want some thoughts.
Besides depressing the clutch all the way down in 1st, in other gears how many of you are depressing the clutch all they way compared to depressing just up to the engagement point?

I find that depressing the clutch just up to the engagement point my shifts are smoother. My previous car never caused any problems doing this.

elim11 · 09-30-2016, 01:01 PM

Look up clutch stop. Best $5 i have ever spent, and best mod on the car.

12mpgm3 · 09-30-2016, 04:49 PM

I depress the clutch the same amount for each shift regardless of gear - right to the floor. Haven't really thought much about this issue but I think if you didn't do this it probably won't have any negative impact on the clutch and of course your shifts will be a bit more efficient. You would need to get through the engagement section though, not just barely to it or I imagine you will likely start increasing wear. I think the last post had it right - getting a clutch stop is the best way to do this.

srmast1 · 09-30-2016, 09:01 PM

I got an ultimate clutch pedal. It is moderately more pricey than a $5 clutch stop. I wonder if I should have done that. But I do find that the UCP gives me quicker crisper shifts than previously, and that "gooey" feel that occurs before clutch engagement is all but gone.

Lucrecio84 · 10-01-2016, 03:32 AM

I don't think its a matter of how far you depress the clutch for smoother shifting but rather the point which you begin to give apply fuel as the clutch disengages

Nick//M3 · 10-01-2016, 11:31 AM

I actually have my seat position set so that my leg extension stops at engagement point . it definitely shift smooth by not going all the way down.

STooK · 10-01-2016, 11:43 AM

Sometimes I notice a slight grind if I don't fully depress the clutch, especially 3-2 downshifts. So, I try my best to depress it all the way.

BSM n54iS · 10-03-2016, 04:07 AM

Clutch stop + remove the helper spring. Will feel very close to what the ultimate clutch pedal feels like from what I've read.

BMW tech actually asked me if I had upgraded my clutch because it was so much stiffer and better feeling

Kong Sheng Han · 10-03-2016, 07:20 AM

Clutch stop.

Haywood · 10-03-2016, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srmast1

I got an ultimate clutch pedal. It is moderately more pricey than a $5 clutch stop. I wonder if I should have done that. But I do find that the UCP gives me quicker crisper shifts than previously, and that "gooey" feel that occurs before clutch engagement is all but gone.

This. Probably one of the best mods I've ever done.

Tewie · 10-03-2016, 12:24 PM

I get clutch depression in my DCT sometimes...

R3dliner · 10-03-2016, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srmast1

I got an ultimate clutch pedal. It is moderately more pricey than a $5 clutch stop. I wonder if I should have done that. But I do find that the UCP gives me quicker crisper shifts than previously, and that "gooey" feel that occurs before clutch engagement is all but gone.

Was the Ultimate clutch pedal worth it at the end of day?

Millie · 10-03-2016, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by R3dliner

Was the Ultimate clutch pedal worth it at the end of day?

After 2k of city driving hell yes I'd say it's worth it. The stock pedal felt like a piece of crap in comparison.

srmast1 · 10-04-2016, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by R3dliner

Was the Ultimate clutch pedal worth it at the end of day?

Most definitely worth it! It allows for quicker footwork, and has a tighter, more solid feel. Switch the gooseneck shifter out for a zcp knob or a OEM 6mt knob and boot set(pricey) from the 2009+ e60 m5(lights up) and the whole shift setup will feel quite a bit nicer. I would recommend this to any e9x m3 6mt owner. I added the zcp knob and had a custom boot added. It only cost me about $160 for the new knob +boot. The knob/boot 1 piece thing from the e60 m5 is around $260 from bmw. It looks really cool though and lights up!

BSM n54iS · 10-04-2016, 03:33 AM

I'm tellin ya guys... try this if you're hesitant about the cost. Might as well if you're planning on removing the pedal altogether..

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195777

srmast1 · 10-04-2016, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Black n54is

I'm tellin ya guys... try this if you're hesitant about the cost. Might as well if you're planning on removing the pedal altogether..

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195777

Yeah he is not kidding about the price. The UCP is about $300 from eas and then the knob switch will be at least $120ish plus any labor for installation.

jaehshim · 10-04-2016, 09:46 PM

wouldn' the clutch stop damage the clutch if it's not fully engaging/disengaging?
some people say once engine starts okay with the clutch stop installed, it should be fine...but i'm just wondering...got no good knowledge in this
if it has no mechanical damage i would like to give it a try

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12mpgm3 Private 14 Rep 88 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 6MT ZCP Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Philly Burbs iTrader: (0)	I depress the clutch the same amount for each shift regardless of gear - right to the floor. Haven't really thought much about this issue but I think if you didn't do this it probably won't have any negative impact on the clutch and of course your shifts will be a bit more efficient. You would need to get through the engagement section though, not just barely to it or I imagine you will likely start increasing wear. I think the last post had it right - getting a clutch stop is the best way to do this.
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srmast1 Captain 293 Rep 644 Posts Drives: 2018 6mt AW m2 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: fresno, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 Audi A4 [0.00] 2019 Acura MDX SH-AWD [0.00] 2011 e90 M3 [0.00]	I got an ultimate clutch pedal. It is moderately more pricey than a $5 clutch stop. I wonder if I should have done that. But I do find that the UCP gives me quicker crisper shifts than previously, and that "gooey" feel that occurs before clutch engagement is all but gone.
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Lucrecio84 Captain 250 Rep 794 Posts Drives: TTE92 m3/ F10 CP M5 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Anaheim, California iTrader: (3)	I don't think its a matter of how far you depress the clutch for smoother shifting but rather the point which you begin to give apply fuel as the clutch disengages __________________ GINTANI TWIN TURBO E92/F10 M5
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Nick//M3 Second Lieutenant 34 Rep 203 Posts Drives: 2013 alpine white/fox red Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Staten island iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 Bmw m3 [0.00]	I actually have my seat position set so that my leg extension stops at engagement point . it definitely shift smooth by not going all the way down.
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STooK Lieutenant Colonel 726 Rep 1,973 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 ZCP Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: NY iTrader: (6)	Sometimes I notice a slight grind if I don't fully depress the clutch, especially 3-2 downshifts. So, I try my best to depress it all the way. __________________ 2013 BMW E92 ///M3 AW/BLK ZCP CF Roof 6 Speed - Perfection 2011 BMW E90 328i xDrive Space Grey/Black - Daily 2011 BMW E93 ///M3 MW/FR/BLK 6 Speed - Gone but not forgotten
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10-03-2016, 04:07 AM	#8
BSM n54iS Brigadier General 2685 Rep 4,202 Posts Drives: '11 335is \| '16 Macan Turbo Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Everywhere and Nowhere iTrader: (7)	Clutch stop + remove the helper spring. Will feel very close to what the ultimate clutch pedal feels like from what I've read. BMW tech actually asked me if I had upgraded my clutch because it was so much stiffer and better feeling
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Kong Sheng Han Banned 303 Rep 1,140 Posts Drives: Something something racecar Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 BMW 328i [0.00] 2001 BMW M3 [0.00]	Clutch stop.
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Tewie Lieutenant 198 Rep 466 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 ZCP Melbourne/FoxRed Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Vallejo, CA iTrader: (0)	I get clutch depression in my DCT sometimes...
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BSM n54iS Brigadier General 2685 Rep 4,202 Posts Drives: '11 335is \| '16 Macan Turbo Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Everywhere and Nowhere iTrader: (7)	I'm tellin ya guys... try this if you're hesitant about the cost. Might as well if you're planning on removing the pedal altogether.. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195777 __________________ '11 335is BSM MT "BMW Performance Editon" \| '16 Porsche Macan Turbo GruppeM CF Intake \| AR Resonated DP \| ER CP \| Turbosmart RacePort BOV \| Cobb FMIC \| RB Inlets \| RB External Mishi/Turner OCC \| Michelin PS4 \| BMW Performance Springs/Bilstein B8 + Dinan & M3 bits \| BMW Brembo BBK \| BMW Performance CF Spoiler \| BMW Performance CF Lip \| BMW Performance Alcantara \| PS Designs GTS Armrest \| AG H6-40 \| Rear Seat Delete
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jaehshim Major 492 Rep 1,374 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NE iTrader: (3)	wouldn' the clutch stop damage the clutch if it's not fully engaging/disengaging? some people say once engine starts okay with the clutch stop installed, it should be fine...but i'm just wondering...got no good knowledge in this if it has no mechanical damage i would like to give it a try __________________
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