what mileage point are you guys doing rod bearings?

ajee622 · 12-05-2016, 10:25 PM

i've seen some posts around 60K miles. this seem to be the census?

jiggz · 12-06-2016, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajee622

i've seen some posts around 60K miles. this seem to be the census?

There's a gazillion threads on this topic. There's members who've had them fail at 30K miles, and members at 100K+ miles w/ track use and still on original bearings.

It's all up to you in regards to when or if you want to replace them. There is no specific mileage interval that you should or shouldn't replace them.

WingZeroX5 · 12-06-2016, 06:27 AM

Rod bearings is a lifetime fluid

Leonardo629 · 12-06-2016, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingZeroX5

Rod bearings is a lifetime fluid

Good one, apparently some S65 refuse to go through the rigors of a high revving N/A motor and often check out early

Rajmun340 · 12-06-2016, 10:13 AM

Replacing rod bearings is useless. If your car is among the near total majority that experiences no RB issue then it will work either way, and if it's one of the few doomed it will fail sooner or later with old or new RB anyway.

The only notable effect of replacing RB is a placebo on you, not the car. This thread is about you belonging of not to that group of people, not the car.

pbonsalb · 12-06-2016, 10:21 AM

That is one view. I disagree with it, though.

ajee622 · 12-06-2016, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiggz

There's a gazillion threads on this topic. There's members who've had them fail at 30K miles, and members at 100K+ miles w/ track use and still on original bearings.

It's all up to you in regards to when or if you want to replace them. There is no specific mileage interval that you should or shouldn't replace them.

Right but I'm not asking when they fail I'm asking when those who havent had them fail get them replaced.

jester17 · 12-06-2016, 04:48 PM

Related issue/situation, but only sort of:

I've got 61K on the clock, and my Assurant warranty (according to the rep, who's been great) will cover a maintenance replacement of the bearings IF the dealership tells them it needs to be done. However, as we all know, looking at the bearings is essentially the same as changing them in terms of labor, so no real point, says I. Still, interesting to know that the warranty has a clause for maintenance on this issue... if I could somehow run a scope in an see the bearings, that'd be great -- but just not possible.

drummer20 · 12-06-2016, 05:06 PM

I would say swap them at 80k-100k miles, although that's pretty much never considering i have a 2008 with 42k miles and put less than 4-5k a year. By that time, the car is gonna be 16-20 years old and realistically, i probably will want to be driving something else as a daily by then.

60k seems overly cautious to me however, but if you can do them yourself.....why not...most of the cost is labor anyways. i feel like if you go over 100k miles on the originals, you are starting to press your luck but several people claim they have so who really knows.

VictorH · 12-06-2016, 06:15 PM

swapped mine at 92,000 miles and it didn't need it. Happy I did it nonetheless.

ilikebmxbikes · 12-06-2016, 06:28 PM

I did one motor around 30k. They were worn but didn't look like they were going to grenade. Looking forward I would swap at 50k for peace of mind

blk zcp · 12-07-2016, 12:09 AM

The more threads like this the more it makes me second guess the motor. I'm at 80k for my 2011 ZCP, previous owner never (drove it hard) or on the track. If the motor needed bearings it would have blown already. I may do it though, if I had $2500 to spare loool

monterey · 12-07-2016, 01:19 AM

I plan to do mine at 200k.

vsix · 12-07-2016, 06:07 AM

I did them with roughly 80k on the odo.

The shop that did mine, told me afterwards they've never seen
rod bearings in such an good condition.
I was like...Maaaaan...you serious?

pbonsalb · 12-07-2016, 07:31 AM

We need more reports like that. So far about 95% of the bearings coming out are excessively worn. If it was the other way around, I would not be concerned. But so far, that has not been the case.

W/// · 12-07-2016, 07:41 AM

Probably 100k miles. I'm at 88k, so it would probably take me another 5 years.

shimmy23 · 12-07-2016, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

We need more reports like that. So far about 95% of the bearings coming out are excessively worn. If it was the other way around, I would not be concerned. But so far, that has not been the case.

also keep in mind this is the interwebz. most of the reports are people chiming in with issues or looking for help. we don't hear from all the owners who are not having issues

AustinMsport · 12-07-2016, 07:46 AM

83K I did mine. One was down to copper.

Rajmun340 · 12-07-2016, 08:10 AM

Just to list a few ..

MMM3PWR
147k miles
01/08 production M3
Original RB
Original 6MT clutch

KKH
125k miles
2009 E90
Original RB

SHADY1
100k miles
2008 E92
Original RB

Dr. Anthony
101k miles
2009 E92 M3
Original RB

phrozen06
200k miles
08 M3
Virginia
Original RB

4corners
155k miles
08 E92 M3
California
Original RB

Nujabes24
110k miles
New Jersey
Original RB

Raek
98800
NY
Original RB

ArthurL
130k miles
2008 M3
Original RB

Hamlet
08 92 M3
110k miles
Virginia
Original RB

E46M3forRay
08 M3
100k miles
Original RB

nholmes
103k miles
2008
CA
Original RB

n54flamer
154k miles
CA
Original RB

Ruiner23
08 E90 M3
230k miles !!
Original RB

redpriest
2011 M3
130k miles
CA
Original RB

Nihilation
124k miles
VA
Original RB

etc ...

xxxian08 · 12-07-2016, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeM3SSII

Just to list a few ..

MMM3PWR
147k miles
01/08 production M3
Original RB
Original 6MT clutch

KKH
125k miles
2009 E90
Original RB

SHADY1
100k miles
2008 E92
Original RB

Dr. Anthony
101k miles
2009 E92 M3
Original RB

phrozen06
200k miles
08 M3
Virginia
Original RB

4corners
155k miles
08 E92 M3
California
Original RB

Nujabes24
110k miles
New Jersey
Original RB

Raek
98800
NY
Original RB

ArthurL
130k miles
2008 M3
Original RB

Hamlet
08 92 M3
110k miles
Virginia
Original RB

E46M3forRay
08 M3
100k miles
Original RB

nholmes
103k miles
2008
CA
Original RB

n54flamer
154k miles
CA
Original RB

Ruiner23
08 E90 M3
230k miles !!
Original RB

redpriest
2011 M3
130k miles
CA
Original RB

Nihilation
124k miles
VA
Original RB

etc ...

This is what people are not paying attention to. Nice to see. My '08 seems like a low-mileage car with only 74k...

WingZeroX5 · 12-07-2016, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeM3SSII

Just to list a few ..

MMM3PWR
147k miles
01/08 production M3
Original RB
Original 6MT clutch

KKH
125k miles
2009 E90
Original RB

SHADY1
100k miles
2008 E92
Original RB

Dr. Anthony
101k miles
2009 E92 M3
Original RB

phrozen06
200k miles
08 M3
Virginia
Original RB

4corners
155k miles
08 E92 M3
California
Original RB

Nujabes24
110k miles
New Jersey
Original RB

Raek
98800
NY
Original RB

ArthurL
130k miles
2008 M3
Original RB

Hamlet
08 92 M3
110k miles
Virginia
Original RB

E46M3forRay
08 M3
100k miles
Original RB

nholmes
103k miles
2008
CA
Original RB

n54flamer
154k miles
CA
Original RB

Ruiner23
08 E90 M3
230k miles !!
Original RB

redpriest
2011 M3
130k miles
CA
Original RB

Nihilation
124k miles
VA
Original RB

etc ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxian08

This is what people are not paying attention to. Nice to see. My '08 seems like a low-mileage car with only 74k...

Add me to the list, I have about 123k?
Going to start a thread documenting my mileage log & associated maintenance soon

Datka · 12-07-2016, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorH

swapped mine at 92,000 miles and it didn't need it. Happy I did it nonetheless.

Interesting.
If I remember correctly, you track your car quite a bit right?
So, as one of the posters said in this thread, replacing rod bearings is useless
"The only notable effect of replacing RB is a placebo on you, not the car"
I agree with this.

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Rajmun340 Major 413 Rep 1,178 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 ZCP factory order Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	Replacing rod bearings is useless. If your car is among the near total majority that experiences no RB issue then it will work either way, and if it's one of the few doomed it will fail sooner or later with old or new RB anyway. The only notable effect of replacing RB is a placebo on you, not the car. This thread is about you belonging of not to that group of people, not the car.
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jester17 First Lieutenant 50 Rep 323 Posts Drives: 2009 E93 M Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Elizabethtown, PA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	Related issue/situation, but only sort of: I've got 61K on the clock, and my Assurant warranty (according to the rep, who's been great) will cover a maintenance replacement of the bearings IF the dealership tells them it needs to be done. However, as we all know, looking at the bearings is essentially the same as changing them in terms of labor, so no real point, says I. Still, interesting to know that the warranty has a clause for maintenance on this issue... if I could somehow run a scope in an see the bearings, that'd be great -- but just not possible.
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drummer20 Private First Class 52 Rep 151 Posts Drives: 2008 e92 M3 Stock Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Dallas TX iTrader: (0)	I would say swap them at 80k-100k miles, although that's pretty much never considering i have a 2008 with 42k miles and put less than 4-5k a year. By that time, the car is gonna be 16-20 years old and realistically, i probably will want to be driving something else as a daily by then. 60k seems overly cautious to me however, but if you can do them yourself.....why not...most of the cost is labor anyways. i feel like if you go over 100k miles on the originals, you are starting to press your luck but several people claim they have so who really knows.
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VictorH Major 433 Rep 1,286 Posts Drives: '09 M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: SC iTrader: (4)	swapped mine at 92,000 miles and it didn't need it. Happy I did it nonetheless.
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blk zcp New Member 4 Rep 23 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP - 6 Speed Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: SF Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	The more threads like this the more it makes me second guess the motor. I'm at 80k for my 2011 ZCP, previous owner never (drove it hard) or on the track. If the motor needed bearings it would have blown already. I may do it though, if I had $2500 to spare loool __________________ '16 F36 435i Gran Coupe Current - M-Sport everything, Alpine White on Coral Red, Bilstein B16, bootmod3 Stage 1, BMS Intake, Resonator Delete '11 E92 M3 Coupe ZCP REGRETFULLY SOLD - Jet Black on Fox Red w/ Carbon Fiber Inlays - 6 Speed '07 Honda Civic SI FA5 Track - Too many mods and too many miles
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monterey Major 339 Rep 1,239 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States iTrader: (1)	I plan to do mine at 200k.
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vsix Lieutenant Colonel 602 Rep 1,611 Posts Drives: M3 E92 sold, M4 F82 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: ATL iTrader: (0)	I did them with roughly 80k on the odo. The shop that did mine, told me afterwards they've never seen rod bearings in such an good condition. I was like...Maaaaan...you serious?
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pbonsalb Lieutenant General 5212 Rep 10,594 Posts Drives: 18 F90 M5, 99 E36 M3 Turbo Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New England iTrader: (4)	We need more reports like that. So far about 95% of the bearings coming out are excessively worn. If it was the other way around, I would not be concerned. But so far, that has not been the case.
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Rajmun340 Major 413 Rep 1,178 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 ZCP factory order Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	Just to list a few .. MMM3PWR 147k miles 01/08 production M3 Original RB Original 6MT clutch KKH 125k miles 2009 E90 Original RB SHADY1 100k miles 2008 E92 Original RB Dr. Anthony 101k miles 2009 E92 M3 Original RB phrozen06 200k miles 08 M3 Virginia Original RB 4corners 155k miles 08 E92 M3 California Original RB Nujabes24 110k miles New Jersey Original RB Raek 98800 NY Original RB ArthurL 130k miles 2008 M3 Original RB Hamlet 08 92 M3 110k miles Virginia Original RB E46M3forRay 08 M3 100k miles Original RB nholmes 103k miles 2008 CA Original RB n54flamer 154k miles CA Original RB Ruiner23 08 E90 M3 230k miles !! Original RB redpriest 2011 M3 130k miles CA Original RB Nihilation 124k miles VA Original RB etc ...
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