Track forum general chit chat.

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by Grip Addict

So if 8-10 in one day is possible for you, but you advise against it. Then 5-6 is a firm hell yeah? lol

definitely! VIR is a really good track, well worth 5-6h!
I like the Glen more, but it's important to diversity the tracks we all go to!

[Kelse92]

Originally Posted by Grip Addict

So if 8-10 in one day is possible for you, but you advise against it. Then 5-6 is a firm hell yeah? lol

I have driven to Hallett and back from Dallas many times, it's approx 4.5hrs and worth it as it is one of my favorite tracks. I usually take a half-day off work Friday and leave Friday afternoon. Stay for Friday/Saturday night and just do the long haul back Sunday at the end of the day, often skipping the last session of the day to load up. Makes for an exhausting day of work on Monday but worth it.

[XKxRome0ox]

can someone give me a TLDR on KW V3?
more street or track oriented? good bang for the buck?
look elsewhere?

[Kelse92]

Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox

can someone give me a TLDR on KW V3?
more street or track oriented? good bang for the buck?
look elsewhere?

More street. Price wise the Clubsport isn’t that much more and they are plentiful to find used for good deals, but the V3 with springs swapped to be linear springs instead of the progressive springs they find with could maybe be a decent budget option. Although I am not certain how those are valved to where they can take a significant spring swap... What are your goals? Serious track use? A few times a year? Probably fine for a few times a year though Ohlins R&T or MCS1-way NR might be more suggested options depending on the answer.

[XKxRome0ox]

Originally Posted by Kelse92

More street. Price wise the Clubsport isn’t that much more and they are plentiful to find used for good deals, but the V3 with springs swapped to be linear springs instead of the progressive springs they find with could maybe be a decent budget option. Although I am not certain how those are valved to where they can take a significant spring swap... What are your goals? Serious track use? A few times a year? Probably fine for a few times a year though Ohlins R&T or MCS1-way NR might be more suggested options depending on the answer.

my goal when i bought the M3 - i'm going to turn this into a track beast!

reality - wife already disliked me leaving her to go play with the boys driving around in circles ...
and then came the baby and planning on another so she really really does not like me going to the track and leaving her alone with the baby
so i don't know when my next track day will be


i'm on stock EDC suspension, 82k miles
figured I need to refresh the suspension at some point so looking for a budget friendly way to do some double duty for occasional track day

[okusa]

Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox

reality - wife already disliked me leaving her to go play with the boys driving around in circles ...
and then came the baby and planning on another so she really really does not like me going to the track and leaving her alone with the baby
so i don't know when my next track day will be

Maybe roastbeef can teach you how he got Mrs. Beef to attend track days with him.

[roastbeef]

It was a trap. Notice how I'm not around much anymore? Lol just kidding we had some house projects going.

Mrs beef likes cars. She's not interested in doing maintenance or track driving, but she does enjoy track days, looking at cars, sounds, and the occasional ride. It's been tougher to get out with her now that we have a few big dogs, but I'll be getting a trailer soon and the whole family can come.

[StripclubDJ]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

It was a trap. Notice how I'm not around much anymore? Lol just kidding we had some house projects going.

Mrs beef likes cars. She's not interested in doing maintenance or track driving, but she does enjoy track days, looking at cars, sounds, and the occasional ride. It's been tougher to get out with her now that we have a few big dogs, but I'll be getting a trailer soon and the whole family can come.

Trailer for what?
Your street car with heated seats ?

[DRLane]

Originally Posted by StripclubDJ

Trailer for what?
Your street car with heated seats ?

[roastbeef]

Originally Posted by StripclubDJ

Trailer for what?
Your street car with heated seats ?

Yesssssssss.

[javie90]

hey guys,

just picked up an e90 M3 after years out of the game and thinking about coilovers.
Mainly Ohlins R&T vs KW CS. The Ohlins with GC camber plates are about the same price as the KWs so that's a draw. I'm reading the KW have clearance issues with running 275 tires up front. This would require swapping springs correct?
Also, the consensus seems to be that Ohlins are softer. This car will not be a daily (maybe 3 days out of the week) and will see a few track days a year. Maybe 4-5.

Which is the better option? Appreciate your suggestions!

[XKxRome0ox]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

It was a trap. Notice how I'm not around much anymore? Lol just kidding we had some house projects going.

Mrs beef likes cars. She's not interested in doing maintenance or track driving, but she does enjoy track days, looking at cars, sounds, and the occasional ride. It's been tougher to get out with her now that we have a few big dogs, but I'll be getting a trailer soon and the whole family can come.

you're a lucky man

fat chance for me
my wife doesn't even like riding in my car
"too bumpy" "too loud"

[Move Over]

Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox

you're a lucky man

fat chance for me
my wife doesn't even like riding in my car
"too bumpy" "too loud"

My wife was a little irritated at me last year at barber because my car only has one seat in it. "So I don't get any laps with you? Cool, cool"

Street is a different story

[Move Over]

Originally Posted by javierchoi

hey guys,

just picked up an e90 M3 after years out of the game and thinking about coilovers.
Mainly Ohlins R&T vs KW CS. The Ohlins with GC camber plates are about the same price as the KWs so that's a draw. I'm reading the KW have clearance issues with running 275 tires up front. This would require swapping springs correct?
Also, the consensus seems to be that Ohlins are softer. This car will not be a daily (maybe 3 days out of the week) and will see a few track days a year. Maybe 4-5.

Which is the better option? Appreciate your suggestions!

Sent you a message!

Between the two I think Ohlins does a better job for double duty, springs are a tad softer but that's not always a bad thing. I've had two sets of KW's and both had one shock take a crap on me in the first 10k miles. The biggest issue (like you said) is some 275's will hit depending on the tire without a spacer.

What wheel and tire setup do you plan to run?

[slowdown_dan]

I would lean towards Ohlins, and then if track is srs add in adjustable sway bars and end links. The complaint most have about Ohlins for serious tracking is as Alex mentioned, the springs are too soft (the valving can handle more spring though). Since a sway bar is essentially a spring, and an adjustable one at that, you can "add spring" on track days by adjusting your sway bars, and then dial it back for the street.

[Kelse92]

My vote in this case is the Ohlins again. They are a great setup for daily/street
But a simple spring swap and the KW's Do fit up to 11" wheels and 295's up front with no clearance issues at a proper ride height.

[XKxRome0ox]

Originally Posted by Move Over

Sent you a message!

Between the two I think Ohlins does a better job for double duty, springs are a tad softer but that's not always a bad thing. I've had two sets of KW's and both had one shock take a crap on me in the first 10k miles. The biggest issue (like you said) is some 275's will hit depending on the tire without a spacer.

What wheel and tire setup do you plan to run?

is there warranty by KW that covers a failing shock?

[Move Over]

Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox

is there warranty by KW that covers a failing shock?

90 day on the clubsports which is nearly useless. Not sure what it is on the variants

[dbyrd]

I thought I plop this in here in case anyone is looking for a nicely equipped dual-duty e92 M3. I'm going to a race car, trailer and X5 for tow vehicle.

https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1802755

[dparm]

Originally Posted by Move Over

90 day on the clubsports which is nearly useless. Not sure what it is on the variants

That's a fucking joke. It means they have no confidence in their product and are basically only covering some sort of gross manufacturing defect you'll discover during the first test drive.

[okusa]

Originally Posted by dbyrd

I'm going to a race car

Details please!

[dbyrd]

Originally Posted by okusa

Details please!

I'll post more in a few days. I considered gutting the E92, but decided to look for a car ready to race. Looking at NASA, BMW CCA and WRL. Flying to Atlanta for X5 diesel tow vehicle on Sunday.