Track forum general chit chat.

[Visceral]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

That's a bummer about the hard Motorsport ducts. Seems like they are going crazy with a 3D printer and not taking longevity or quality into consideration.

They're discussing it and getting back to me with a solution. I called and basically pointed out that I had installed them correctly, used them correctly, and that 6 track days later they were gone. If they want to send me a better solution, OK. Otherwise, since I bought them directly, I'm happy to contact Visa.

[warp10]

Anyone in the market for a coolshirt System?

I am pulling out my 13qt System. Will come with cooler, wiring, good amount of hose, heat deflector Mat, and mounting tray, and cool-la-clava (never on hair). 1 1/2 season of use. Like new.

Retail was: $589 plus tax.

Asking $400 Shipped.

[roastbeef]

Originally Posted by Visceral

They're discussing it and getting back to me with a solution. I called and basically pointed out that I had installed them correctly, used them correctly, and that 6 track days later they were gone. If they want to send me a better solution, OK. Otherwise, since I bought them directly, I'm happy to contact Visa.

did they rip your fender liners or anything?

[Visceral]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

did they rip your fender liners or anything?

No, no peripheral destruction. The fender liners had to be modified to install them, but that's not hurting anything until I don't get a replacement.

[Visceral]

What's everybody's favorite HANS setup? While I see it frequently "discussed", I'm not finding a lot of usable conclusions.

[admranger]

Originally Posted by Visceral

Speaking of ducting, my perfectly installed Hard MS brake ducting kit ate itself this weekend.

4 track days and 6 autocrosses and the plastic pieces have slowly cracked and then once they begin to fail and get closer to the tires/wheels, the moving tires do the rest.

An interesting aside. Until she gets back out on the track with an instructor, my wife is strangely happy to daily a compromised car. I don't understand why she seems to enjoy short gears, darty street handling, extra noise, and uncomfortable ride, but she seems to enjoy daily-ing it more every time I take away some of the luxury. I'm aware that this is strange. I don't even like to drive the M3 on the street much. She could drive a 991 or a big Lexus instead and keeps driving the M3 (and asking how soon we can put coilovers on).

Now that I've written that, I'm sorta suspicious.

She sounds like a keeper!

[FuzzyPeaches]

Originally Posted by warp10

Anyone in the market for a coolshirt System?

I am pulling out my 13qt System. Will come with cooler, wiring, good amount of hose, heat deflector Mat, and mounting tray, and cool-la-clava (never on hair). 1 1/2 season of use. Like new.

Retail was: $589 plus tax.

Asking $400 Shipped.

Any cheaper if I come pick it up?

[warp10]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPeaches

Any cheaper if I come pick it up?

Well I must have had it priced to well. Already sold.

[FuzzyPeaches]

Originally Posted by warp10

Well I must have had it priced to well. Already sold.

Yeah. It was a good price!

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by Visceral

What's everybody's favorite HANS setup? While I see it frequently "discussed", I'm not finding a lot of usable conclusions.

Simpson hybrid

[FuzzyPeaches]

Originally Posted by Visceral

Speaking of ducting, my perfectly installed Hard MS brake ducting kit ate itself this weekend.

4 track days and 6 autocrosses and the plastic pieces have slowly cracked and then once they begin to fail and get closer to the tires/wheels, the moving tires do the rest.

An interesting aside. Until she gets back out on the track with an instructor, my wife is strangely happy to daily a compromised car. I don't understand why she seems to enjoy short gears, darty street handling, extra noise, and uncomfortable ride, but she seems to enjoy daily-ing it more every time I take away some of the luxury. I'm aware that this is strange. I don't even like to drive the M3 on the street much. She could drive a 991 or a big Lexus instead and keeps driving the M3 (and asking how soon we can put coilovers on).

Now that I've written that, I'm sorta suspicious.

Originally Posted by Visceral

RIGHT?

I've been thinking about this. I advise that you don't say anything. Just get the coilovers for the car. You, sir, maybe in that grand place where the wife will let you build the track car of your dreams... as long as you let her drive it!

Just let it happen.....but, watch your back!

[dparm]

Originally Posted by Visceral

What's everybody's favorite HANS setup? While I see it frequently "discussed", I'm not finding a lot of usable conclusions.

HANS Sport 3 if you already have harnesses (or are going the harness route). The Schroth Flex SHR might work better if you have a big chest, otherwise get the traditional HANS.

Simpson Hybrid is an interesting alternative if you have 3-point belts or are doing instructing and jumping from car to car.

[dparm]

First time back at GingerMan for a few years, and first time in the Vette. PB was 1:40.63, and Pi Toolbox indicates my theoretical fastest for the day was about 1:40.1. I know there's even more time to be had. Another Grand Sport, the Z06, and a Cayman GT4 and I were all dead-even for this session and having a blast, as you can see in the video.

V max: 131.7
Lat G max: 1.39

My tire wear was MUCH improved with Fall-Line's alignment spec and their advice to bump cold pressures up 1-2 psi.

[Visceral]

Originally Posted by FuzzyPeaches

I've been thinking about this. I advise that you don't say anything. Just get the coilovers for the car. You, sir, maybe in that grand place where the wife will let you build the track car of your dreams... as long as you let her drive it!

Just let it happen.....but, watch your back!

But I promise, a couple can team up and go bankrupt even faster than a single person can

[Visceral]

Originally Posted by dparm

Another Grand Sport, the Z06, and a Cayman GT4 and I were all dead-even for this session and having a blast, as you can see in the video.

That Z06 is either a terrible driver or the car is allergic to corner apexes.

Also that pass at 8:00 seemed odd. Was it OK to pass in a corner with no point-by?

[Visceral]

Originally Posted by dparm

H
Simpson Hybrid is an interesting alternative if you have 3-point belts or are doing instructing and jumping from car to car.

Thanks. The Hybrid is super tempting, but I think in the occasions I don't have harnesses, I'll have airbags... The Hybrid looks like it might be otherwise less comfortable, especially in the heat.

[FuzzyPeaches]

Originally Posted by Visceral

But I promise, a couple can team up and go bankrupt even faster than a single person can

No doubt about that! If there's no one to keep you in check, bye-bye.... uh, check?

[macdude357]

Originally Posted by Visceral

What's everybody's favorite HANS setup? While I see it frequently "discussed", I'm not finding a lot of usable conclusions.

I love my Necksgen Rev. Low profile and don't even notice it when I'm in the car.

[Chris_PDX]

Originally Posted by Visceral

What's everybody's favorite HANS setup? While I see it frequently "discussed", I'm not finding a lot of usable conclusions.

I use the Simpson HANS III (the new one, with the rear cut-out to reduce weight), with the Button anchors. It's the traditional style. Head movement on track is not an issue, but in the pits it can be. Backing up is sort of a pain as you can't check blind spots.

I like it well enough. You know how big I am, so the chest mounted ones wouldn't really work for me.

[Ximian]

Originally Posted by Visceral

That Z06 is either a terrible driver or the car is allergic to corner apexes.

Also that pass at 8:00 seemed odd. Was it OK to pass in a corner with no point-by?

"It was at this moment dparm knew... he fucked up." At least the other guy seemed aware enough not to run wide.

[dparm]

Originally Posted by Visceral

That Z06 is either a terrible driver or the car is allergic to corner apexes.

Also that pass at 8:00 seemed odd. Was it OK to pass in a corner with no point-by?

He got the point-by, probably just hard to see on the video. The PDR camera struggles when it's overcast like that. I agree the pass was a tad late, but it was advanced group and the last session so they were being lenient.

You are right though, after rewatching that video I can see that the Z06 is not consistently getting close to the apexes on the corners. Might explain why his times were within a half-second of mine despite being up 200hp and having better aero.

[dparm]

Fall-Line's alignment and advice to bump cold pressures 1-2psi did the trick. These things wore quite well after their first track day. The depth is also consistent across the face of all four. This is a huge win for my wallet.