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09-23-2018, 03:18 PM | #1 |
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Price Check 2013 ZCP 6MT Mint 22k miles
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So it looks like this just got listed as sold and it was removed from Cars.com I plan on calling to make sure tomorrow, but what are your thoughts on the price. More photos here http://enthusiastauto.com/qsearch/?i...orm_display=51 |
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Every single car for sale on enthusiast auto is way overpriced. It's all up to YOUR specific appetite if you are willing to overpay, for the admittedly very quality product they deliver.
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I've been watching the e92 M3 market for about a year, daily (I bought one on Friday, hence the reason this is my second post and all). With miles like that, the seller can just set the price and cross their fingers that they'll sell it, and when it does- that the buyer wouldn't have been willing to pay $5k more. We also don't know what it sold for- that was asking price. It could have sold for $38k. The fact that we all think it sold for $46k is good for owners, bad for shoppers. They've bottomed out in depreciation and we just don't really know what the market is going to do in the next couple of years. I suspect stabilize before slowly appreciating, but sellers seem to be getting a bit ballsy with their asking the last few months. Compounding that- the market for a $46k used car is slim- Yes, its a special car, no, most banks won't care when determining how much they'll lend (they do to some extent). My guess is- the person buying that car as the market on e9x M3s bottom out, is a collector more than an enthusiast. I was shopping the sub-30k market though. I can tell you I had to pay asking price for mine, which irked me, but I wasn't willing to let someone else have it, wanted it taken off eBay, hopefully to the dismay of it's 21 watchers. I think with desired colors and/or low mile examples it's really tough to tell, especially with the odd state of the current market.
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I got mine from Carmax... 26K miles with 5-year warranty for $47K after finance (3.74%, 0 down 60 months)
It's a 5 year old car... Carmax covers anything that breaks (not worn down) for the next 5 years or 100K miles. i.e... 89k miles road bearing failures = new engine. If these places don't offer warranty for such a high price, IMO it's not worth it. Ticking time bomb if you don't replace your RB as everyone says on this forum. |
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$47k is about $9k overpriced for that 6MT coupe with black on black, no premium sound, and MOONROOF. The leather does look like it's in exceptional condition though but not worth that price.
I too bought a Carmax M3 and some would argue I even overpaid at $39k. Also bought warranty through 75k miles for $2200 and I got waaaay more car than the one in OP. 2012 E92, SSII, DCT, ZCP, CF roof, EPS, 35k miles. |
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I've never really understood the logic on this one. Nothing against areyoumac in particular. Seems a lot of people feel this way.
Considering depreciation is slowing on these cars, it's the last 2 door M3, it's the only V8 M3, it's the last NA M car, there's a chance it could hold or even increase in value (I'm not putting any eggs in that basket, but it's surely a possibility, especially for special colors or configurations). Quite frankly, I wouldn't want an e30, e36, or e46 that had an engine replaced. Seems like a weird gamble. You're making $930 payments- clearly you'd want to protect the "investment" — why not do rod bearings for $1500. Just a bit more than your car payment. Does anyone know of people are okay with buying M3s that have had engines replaced? Or are buyers generally apprehensive? If someone is in the market for a $15k M3 as a track car, or just desperate for an M3, regardless of mileage or title, whatever on the engine replacement. But if someone is looking to add a perfect low mile $35k+ M3 to their garage, I'd imagine you'd be hard-pressed to sell them a car without the engine it rolled off the line with. Just my opinion. "Eh, I'll let the engine blow and get it replaced" just seems like a bizarre, albeit common enough, approach to E9x ownership.
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And as UPSROD just said, $2,250 in the Tampa area where I am from for bearings. |
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I'm not. I heard of people getting it for that low. I am, personally, under the impression it's about $1k more.
I guess that low number suited my argument better.
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And I realize, now, it's not a purposeful ignoring of the rod bearings with a "f*ck it" attitude about replacing the engine. It's a calculated risk, weighing the value of a warranty against the probability of a bearing taking a crap. I'm so sick of talking about rod bearings, honestly. I've had this car for 10 days. I can't even imagine how the rest of you feel. I can confirm a Tampa Bay Area quote from a reputable shop, dated 10/5/2018 for $2,490 including new motor mounts. This includes OEM bearings, which the shop made a pretty legit case for.
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They said if there is an issue with the rod bearings using genuine OEM BMW parts, they have some sort of warranty against defects. I guess this shop is some sort of authorized BMW shop. Basically- if the part fails (not normal wear/tear) but if, say, after a couple thousand miles one of the bearings fails because of a defect, BMW is liable to fix the car, in this case likely having to replace the engine because of a faulty part. After I thought about it for a while and poking around the forums, I couldn't find anything about a new bearing simply failing. It would seem I'd be better taking my chances with the improved aftermarket part so I'm not questioning the integrity of the bearings again in 20k miles. They did say I was welcome to purchase aftermarket bearings and they'll put those in, so I'd didn't really question their motive for pushing OEM at the time, except for the fact they're marking the price up from what they can be bought for on FCP Euro by $7.11 per for a total of $113.76 markup.
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Check this one out: 2013 26K White/Black $43K (less than the one you posted) https://www.carmax.com/car/16049107 |
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