M3 vs 2018 mustang gt

[65fastback]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Man I wish Atlanta dealers didnt suck(Ford and BMW to be fair). This one dealer has 3 17 GT350 on the lot with 18s coming in and still wants ADM on the 17s. Lame.

I did find a dealer 5 hours away in Alabama that has 5 of them for $2000 under MSRP. May make a road trip this weekend and see if I can get a real good deal on one of them. The real question is can I get a decent trade value on my low mile e92.

For what it’s worth ... I worked out a deal on a 2018 GT fully loaded it was 48k, They offered me 37k on my 2013 m3 zcp with 40k miles. Ultimately I passed on the deal because I felt they were asking too much for their’s, and a couple other reasons .
Every dealership is different so you just never know how things will go down best of luck on your venture! Even if you don’t buy one I hope you get to do a serious test drive I want to hear your impressions

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by 65fastback

For what it’s worth ... I worked out a deal on a 2018 GT fully loaded it was 48k, They offered me 37k on my 2013 m3 zcp with 40k miles. Ultimately I passed on the deal because I felt they were asking too much for their’s, and a couple other reasons .
Every dealership is different so you just never know how things will go down best of luck on your venture! Even if you don’t buy one I hope you get to do a serious test drive I want to hear your impressions

Isnt 48k pretty much MSRP on a loaded GT? Hell I didnt even know you could get them that high but I was surprised when I just built one.

My car is an 11 M3 ZCP with 22k miles. I wonder if I could get 37k trade..

[eatsleepboost]

I got an 11 m3 ZCP bone stock 1 owner 34000 miles for $34500. I bought it private sale for that price but that was the exact price he got offered for trade in to the BMW dealer it was bought at new. I saw the paperwork.

That was about 6 months ago so I would say you should be at or just below 37k trade. At least 36k.

[65fastback]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Isnt 48k pretty much MSRP on a loaded GT? Hell I didnt even know you could get them that high but I was surprised when I just built one.

My car is an 11 M3 ZCP with 22k miles. I wonder if I could get 37k trade..

Yeah MSRP was 49k they took a measly thousand dollars off ... since The mustang was marked up So high they showed a lot for my trade, trying to make it look like they’re giving me all the money when in reality I’m just over paying for their Mustang and they’re giving me average money for my trade .

If you go to the Ford website you can build one for well over $50,000. Carbon fiber interior panels and Alcantara seats are a nice upgrade over the standard leather and aluminum interior stuff.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by 65fastback

Yeah MSRP was 49k they took a measly thousand dollars off ... since The mustang was marked up So high they showed a lot for my trade, trying to make it look like they’re giving me all the money when in reality I’m just over paying for their Mustang and they’re giving me average money for my trade .

If you go to the Ford website you can build one for well over $50,000. Carbon fiber interior panels and Alcantara seats are a nice upgrade over the standard leather and aluminum interior stuff.

Wow thats crazy I had no idea.

If you ever want to look at another GT look down here in Georgia. They are 4k off on the dealer sites. So even with shipping you would probably save thousands but would have to sell your car private.

[65fastback]

I really believe you should test drive a GT with mag ride and all of the goodies before you plink down the extra 10 K for a GT 350.The valved exhaust on the GT’s is a great integrated feature

[sss19]

M3 all day!

[radiantm3]

Originally Posted by 65fastback

I really believe you should test drive a GT with mag ride and all of the goodies before you plink down the extra 10 K for a GT 350.The valved exhaust on the GT’s is a great integrated feature

Have you seen the latest Motortrend H2H with the 18 GT with performance pack vs SS 1LE? The GT didn’t fare very well on the track.

[GT3fan]

Originally Posted by radiantm3

Have you seen the latest Motortrend H2H with the 18 GT with performance pack vs SS 1LE? The GT didn’t fare very well on the track.

The SS 1LE is a formidable track car and whipped the Mustang by 3.3 seconds around the Streets of Willow.

But, the Mustang was 3.7 seconds faster (1:23.97 vs 1:27.67) versus a 2011 e92 ZCP on the same track/driver.

That SS 1LE is very impressive.

[TTony]

For me the main determination between Mustang GT/GT350 and the M3 was actually the DCT. I love DCT and it makes it possible for my wife to drive it when needed also.

[G80indy]

From behind the wheel it's like driving a boat
My .02

However that new engine is hawt !!
Direct and port injection!

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by 330indy

From behind the wheel it's like driving a boat
My .02

When I test drove GT350 I still had my M4 and it didnt feel big at all. But when I got back into an E92 the first thing I noticed was how small it felt compared to the M4. So my point is big is a problem with the newer cars.

[M43S7RO]

One thing that doesn't come up in these comparison's is that that OEM tire width on the M3 is narrower than the Mustang so along with being down on power, it also has less tire available... it should be no surprise that the Mustang is faster.

The 1LE runs 305s up front and 325s rear... not surprising it beats the Mustang.

[Dave07997S]

Originally Posted by AMG2M3

The SS 1LE is a formidable track car and whipped the Mustang by 3.3 seconds around the Streets of Willow.

But, the Mustang was 3.7 seconds faster (1:23.97 vs 1:27.67) versus a 2011 e92 ZCP on the same track/driver.

That SS 1LE is very impressive.

Can't compare a test that was done on different tire technology as well as 7 years ago. That test with the E92 ZCP was done with a Contisportcontact 3, while the Mustang was on Mich P4S. The Conti is a terrible tire by today's standards.

[Dave07997S]

Originally Posted by M43S7RO

One thing that doesn't come up in these comparison's is that that OEM tire width on the M3 is narrower than the Mustang so along with being down on power, it also has less tire available... it should be no surprise that the Mustang is faster.

The 1LE runs 305s up front and 325s rear... not surprising it beats the Mustang.

The PP2 upgrade now shipping with Mustangs are going to go along way in rectifying this. The PP2 cars have 19X10.5 and 10X11 with 305s all around.

Also, anyone who has driven a E9X M3 with 275/295 tire setup with 19X10 and 19X11 will tell you on how the car seems to have unlimited grip, really transformed the car.

Dave

[65fastback]

Originally Posted by radiantm3

Have you seen the latest Motortrend H2H with the 18 GT with performance pack vs SS 1LE? The GT didn’t fare very well on the track.

I did see that however for me no offense but.... i really could care less that a camaro is faster around a road course, just like a could care less that a m4 is faster than my m3.

These are all exciting cars to drive and the whole reason i started this thread is because i felt specifically the "new" 2018 mustang GT's are a great upgrade over previous years.... and i was interested to see what other people though of them if they had a chance to actually drive one. But hardly anyone has ( on this site ) as of yet. Oh well.

[G80indy]

I want to drive a manual convertible

[TTony]

Originally Posted by Dave07997S

Can't compare a test that was done on different tire technology as well as 7 years ago. That test with the E92 ZCP was done with a Contisportcontact 3, while the Mustang was on Mich P4S. The Conti is a terrible tire by today's standards.

With the PP2, the Mustang GT gets 305 Cup2's on all 4 corners and revised dampers to best utilize them, which MT claims reduce the track time by 2.5-3.0 sec. Still a little bit off the SS 1LE time.

[Visceral]

Choose the car you love.

At most track days, I can get point-bys by Z06's ILEs, GT3s... whatever.

And I have to give a few out to Miatas and a 79 Celica with a Lexus v8 on Hoosier A7s.

Even for the track, choose the car you love. On the track, an S65 behind a DCT is REALLY easy to love.

[Dave07997S]

Originally Posted by TTony

With the PP2, the Mustang GT gets 305 Cup2's on all 4 corners and revised dampers to best utilize them, which MT claims reduce the track time by 2.5-3.0 sec. Still a little bit off the SS 1LE time.

They haven't tested it yet, we will see.

[Richbot]

All they have done is matched the basic wheel/tire setup of the 1LE withouot doing much to address the Camaro's superior overall chassis other than throw a stickier tire at it. I think it'll still be significantly slower than an SS 1LE on the same tires, but the 1LE doesn't get a DOT-R.

But still, 10.5's and 11's with 305's all around, with mandatory manual just like the Chevy, is pretty rad. Merica. It's still a lot of performance car for $46k (base GT with recaros and PP2), and the SS1LE is right on top of it MSRP-wise.

[TTony]

Originally Posted by Richbot

But still, 10.5's and 11's with 305's all around, with mandatory manual just like the Chevy, is pretty rad. Merica. It's still a lot of performance car for $46k (base GT with recaros and PP2), and the SS1LE is right on top of it MSRP-wise.

And high revving V8's...