Car won't start.. Hear fast clicks, but wont start

andykx213 · 11-25-2020, 07:30 PM

My 2013 E92 M3all of a sudden threw a Check Engine light and went into limp mode. I restarted it but it would only click really fast but wouldn't start. I got it towed to a local shop and these are the codes it gave him.

He said it could possibly be the battery terminal because when he charges the battery, it drains really fast.

I recently did a secondary cat delete also.

Has anybody experienced this before?

Adriano917 · 11-25-2020, 08:04 PM

By some of the codes you have, it tells me a bad Battery. How old is the battery ? If the battery is kaput it wont hold a charge no more.

andykx213 · 11-25-2020, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Adriano917

By some of the codes you have, it tells me a bad Battery. How old is the battery ? If the battery is kaput it wont hold a charge no more.

The battery is 7 years old, never been replaced. According to the CARFAX, it's been recharged 3 times. I ordered a new battery and hopefully it solves the problem

BPMSport · 11-25-2020, 10:31 PM

Battery for sure.

TX · 11-25-2020, 11:08 PM

7 years old? yeah man you got your $ worth out of it. Time for a new battery.
Strange the shop didn't catch a 7 year old battery right off.

andykx213 · 11-26-2020, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TX

7 years old? yeah man you got your $ worth out of it. Time for a new battery.
Strange the shop didn't catch a 7 year old battery right off.

I feel he got overwhelmed with all the codes. He's not a BMW specialist, which is my fault for letting him work on it

Mimmer · 11-26-2020, 05:03 PM

So it fixed your issue?

I just replaced mines not long ago. Def lastly 5 plus years but decided do it before running to possible issues or worry about during a night die on me.

andykx213 · 11-26-2020, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimmer

So it fixed your issue?

I just replaced mines not long ago. Def lastly 5 plus years but decided do it before running to possible issues or worry about during a night die on me.

Going to have it towed to my house from the shop so I can install the new battery. Hoping for the best

Mimmer · 11-26-2020, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by andykx213

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Originally Posted by Mimmer

So it fixed your issue?

I just replaced mines not long ago. Def lastly 5 plus years but decided do it before running to possible issues or worry about during a night die on me.

Going to have it towed to my house from the shop so I can install the new battery. Hoping for the best

Hope it's that's. Easy quick fix ! Hope you got right tool for removing that bolt keep the battery down low ... such a pain go back to buy an extension lol

gtarlo · 11-27-2020, 12:33 AM

Most likely battery

andykx213 · 11-30-2020, 10:42 PM

Here is what the BMW technician said

Redd · 12-01-2020, 09:45 AM

At 7 yrs old, I'd just change the batt first and take that out of the equation.

nrubenstein · 12-01-2020, 10:29 AM

It's clearly not the battery. There's a short somewhere. I'd seriously consider obtaining a replacement engine harness. There are plenty of them out there for cheap. And having your mechanic spend many hours tracing the existing one for a short could easily end up being more expensive than just telling them to swap a replacement in.

msan · 12-01-2020, 11:45 AM

Do you park the car outside normally ?

andykx213 · 12-01-2020, 12:05 PM

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Do you park the car outside normally ?

Always in the garage

TX · 12-01-2020, 10:26 PM

Burning coils? I’m going to take back my earlier advice. That’s not a battery problem. Although at 7 years you do need a new battery. Hope it works out for you.

torrque · 12-01-2020, 11:47 PM

well, it's coils, plugs or injectors. doubt it's going to be wiring harness... doesn't just get melted all of a sudden. How old are the plugs? Just do the cheap stuff first. Change plugs, then coils, re-check.

happydude · 12-02-2020, 08:39 AM

Have you replaced the starter? Looks like you had a code for that. When pressing ignition do you hear 1 click? I had similar problem, the click I heard was the gear on the starter kicking out to engage the flywheel but wasn’t able to turn it to start the car. Started out taking several tries before being able to start to finally having it completely fail.

Edit: just saw your other post on the coils and stuff so you likely don’t have the same problem I did. Good luck and keep us posted.

27riri_ · 12-09-2020, 05:54 PM

I would look into the ground cable also!

nrubenstein · 12-13-2020, 10:37 AM

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well, it's coils, plugs or injectors. doubt it's going to be wiring harness... doesn't just get melted all of a sudden. How old are the plugs? Just do the cheap stuff first. Change plugs, then coils, re-check.

Multiple coils don't melt on their own. Plugs don't cause that, either. And I don't see how injectors would cause coils to melt, either.

It's pretty much either DME or wiring harness or both with those symptoms. Especially given how it runs normally on one bank and is melty on the other.

Edit: And while grounds are important (I just had to dig through my truck's wiring harness to find a bad ground), I don't really see how a bad ground cable would cause one baank to get melty and one bank to run normally. I can't think of any grounds that are separated in that way that wouldn't just point to "replace engine harness."

SilverSlug · 12-13-2020, 02:02 PM

My guess it's the alternator. When they go bad, they can throw all kinds of wonky codes.

Have you tested the alternator?

SilverSlug · 12-13-2020, 02:03 PM

Also, I hope your mechanic registered that new battery with the ECU... Otherwise that new battery and/or the alternator might be getting fried (possibly causing the burning?)

11-25-2020, 07:30 PM	#1
andykx213 Enlisted Member 55 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (0)	Car won't start.. Hear fast clicks, but wont start My 2013 E92 M3all of a sudden threw a Check Engine light and went into limp mode. I restarted it but it would only click really fast but wouldn't start. I got it towed to a local shop and these are the codes it gave him. He said it could possibly be the battery terminal because when he charges the battery, it drains really fast. I recently did a secondary cat delete also. Has anybody experienced this before? Attached Images
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11-25-2020, 08:04 PM	#2
Adriano917 09 M3 e93 VF650, e30 e85, Remus, Federal’s 595rs 205 Rep 329 Posts Drives: BMW M3 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: El Paso, Tx iTrader: (0)	By some of the codes you have, it tells me a bad Battery. How old is the battery ? If the battery is kaput it wont hold a charge no more. __________________ 09 M3 E93 - VF650, AFD e30 e85, Remus Race, Federal’s 595 rs-pro’s.
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TX Captain 365 Rep 860 Posts Drives: 2009 ///M3 E92 APW 6MT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: South FL iTrader: (0)	7 years old? yeah man you got your $ worth out of it. Time for a new battery. Strange the shop didn't catch a 7 year old battery right off. __________________
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Mimmer Lieutenant 57 Rep 412 Posts Drives: E92 13' Join Date: May 2010 Location: WA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2013 e92 m3 [0.00]	So it fixed your issue? I just replaced mines not long ago. Def lastly 5 plus years but decided do it before running to possible issues or worry about during a night die on me.
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11-27-2020, 12:33 AM	#10
gtarlo Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: BMW E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (0)	Most likely battery
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11-30-2020, 10:42 PM	#11
andykx213 Enlisted Member 55 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (0)	Update 1: Here is what the BMW technician said Attached Images
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12-01-2020, 09:45 AM	#12
Redd Brigadier General 3894 Rep 4,157 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW E92 M3 Dakar Edition Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Malaysia iTrader: (0)	At 7 yrs old, I'd just change the batt first and take that out of the equation.
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nrubenstein Captain 567 Rep 801 Posts Drives: E30 M3/E36 M3/E46 M3/E90 M3 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Washington, DC iTrader: (2)	It's clearly not the battery. There's a short somewhere. I'd seriously consider obtaining a replacement engine harness. There are plenty of them out there for cheap. And having your mechanic spend many hours tracing the existing one for a short could easily end up being more expensive than just telling them to swap a replacement in. __________________ 2011.75 E90 M3 \| 2006 GMC Sierra LBZ \| 2004 X5 3.0i 6MT \| 1995 M3 S50B32 \| 1990 325is \| 1989 M3 S54B32 Hers: 1996 911 Turbo \| 1989 325iX
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msan Major 403 Rep 1,171 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 / 2012 X5 35i M Sp Join Date: May 2015 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (16)	Do you park the car outside normally ?
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12-01-2020, 10:26 PM	#16
TX Captain 365 Rep 860 Posts Drives: 2009 ///M3 E92 APW 6MT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: South FL iTrader: (0)	Burning coils? I’m going to take back my earlier advice. That’s not a battery problem. Although at 7 years you do need a new battery. Hope it works out for you.
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torrque Banned 298 Rep 650 Posts Drives: Ferrari F430, E92 M3, 335xi Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Newton, MA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 Ferrari F430 [9.08] 2009 BMW M3 [10.00] 2008 BMW 335xi [0.00]	well, it's coils, plugs or injectors. doubt it's going to be wiring harness... doesn't just get melted all of a sudden. How old are the plugs? Just do the cheap stuff first. Change plugs, then coils, re-check.
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12-02-2020, 08:39 AM	#18
happydude Second Lieutenant 135 Rep 234 Posts Drives: E92 M3 / F15 X5 35d Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Have you replaced the starter? Looks like you had a code for that. When pressing ignition do you hear 1 click? I had similar problem, the click I heard was the gear on the starter kicking out to engage the flywheel but wasn’t able to turn it to start the car. Started out taking several tries before being able to start to finally having it completely fail. Edit: just saw your other post on the coils and stuff so you likely don’t have the same problem I did. Good luck and keep us posted. Last edited by happydude; 12-02-2020 at 08:45 AM..
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27riri_ Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: 328i Sedan Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: montreal, qc iTrader: (0)	I would look into the ground cable also!
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SilverSlug Hey, where have you been all my life? 680 Rep 1,401 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 6MT Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: San Francisco, CA iTrader: (2)	My guess it's the alternator. When they go bad, they can throw all kinds of wonky codes. Have you tested the alternator?
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SilverSlug Hey, where have you been all my life? 680 Rep 1,401 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 6MT Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: San Francisco, CA iTrader: (2)	Also, I hope your mechanic registered that new battery with the ECU... Otherwise that new battery and/or the alternator might be getting fried (possibly causing the burning?)
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