E46 or e92

SYT_Shadow · 09-22-2017, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dre

I love the look of the e46. If I'm not mistaken that due to the extra weight the e92 is not faster than the e46. I might be wrong on that. I think there is a 300 pound weight difference.

The E9X is so much faster than the E46 it is not even funny. Undoubtedly **way** faster.

General comments:
People have some interesting fantasties about the E46. Unless someone else here has had both for years, tracked both in the same day in the same state of tune, etc etc they shouldn't be speaking about this.

E9X is around 6 seconds faster, 6MT to 6MT, at identical state of tune around a track. It is a huge difference. What's more important though is that the E9X is much more fun around that same track.

As far as weight, I was tired of reading stupid things on the interwebs and brought both my cars to stock, filled them up completely full and got them weighed. Exactly 100lb difference.

last1left · 09-22-2017, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

The E9X is so much faster than the E46 it is not even funny. Undoubtedly **way** faster.

General comments:
People have some interesting fantasties about the E46. Unless someone else here has had both for years, tracked both in the same day in the same state of tune, etc etc they shouldn't be speaking about this.

E9X is around 6 seconds faster, 6MT to 6MT, at identical state of tune around a track. It is a huge difference. What's more important though is that the E9X is much more fun around that same track.

As far as weight, I was tired of reading stupid things on the interwebs and brought both my cars to stock, filled them up completely full and got them weighed. Exactly 100lb difference.

Wow really 6 seconds faster and only 100lb difference?

1MOREMOD · 09-22-2017, 03:07 PM

My stock e46 was 200 lbs lighter than my manual e90. Now it's 700

SYT_Shadow · 09-22-2017, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by last1left

Wow really 6 seconds faster and only 100lb difference?

With the same tires, equivalent suspension, etc

From the multiple times I've disassembled the cars it seems like the components of the E9X are lighter than the E46. Door cards, suspension, seats, etc are way lighter.
So, if you were to strip both out, the E46 would lose more weight than the E92.

last1left · 09-22-2017, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

My stock e46 was 200 lbs lighter than my manual e90. Now it's 700

What did you do to shave 500?

k3silk · 09-22-2017, 04:23 PM

E92 at the price they are going for now you would be a fool to pay 16-22k for a 80k/100 e46 when you can get an e92 with simular miles for around 23-27k. Much more updated car and fun to drive on weekends. Also has a lit of creature comforts that your M5 would have.

GVIFlyer · 09-22-2017, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Dre

I love the look of the e46. If I'm not mistaken that due to the extra weight the e92 is not faster than the e46. I might be wrong on that. I think there is a 300 pound weight difference.

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yeah_knee · 09-22-2017, 04:33 PM

Next question.... manual or DCT if I choose the e92?!?!?!

Denk · 09-22-2017, 04:50 PM

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Next question.... manual or DCT if I choose the e92?!?!?!

You'll feel at home with the DCT. I'd suggest trying to test drive the manual. I've had both and used to be a manual die hard but have been a DCT convert for the last 6 years. It's a beauty matched to the S65. The manual gear box isn't anything to brag about in the e9x unless you just gotta row your own gears.

GVIFlyer · 09-22-2017, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by yeah_knee

Next question.... manual or DCT if I choose the e92?!?!?!

I find the 6-speed manual to be ropey and vague with long throws.

SYT_Shadow · 09-22-2017, 05:28 PM

I have one of each

The DCT has the OEM GTS map and is incredibly fast and precise

The 6MT has the AutoSolutions SSK and Ultimate Clutch Pedal. It is massively engaging

1MOREMOD · 09-22-2017, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by last1left

What did you do to shave 500?

Stripped it? It's 2920 now

yeah_knee · 09-22-2017, 05:53 PM

The thing I?m also over analyzing is will I have incentive to really the drive the m3 over the m5 ......

BOOF-M3 · 09-22-2017, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by yeah_knee

The thing I?m also over analyzing is will I have incentive to really the drive the m3 over the m5 ......

And one day you will enjoy driving it. Get it all out of your system now and make sure you are getting the right vehicle. We all did it, you are not alone.

yeah_knee · 09-22-2017, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

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Originally Posted by yeah_knee

The thing I?m also over analyzing is will I have incentive to really the drive the m3 over the m5 ......

And one day you will enjoy driving it. Get it all out of your system now and make sure you are getting the right vehicle. We all did it, you are not alone.

I?ve been debating this for 2 years now lol I want to have both in the garage. Just wanna make sure I?m 100% in if I do it

BOOF-M3 · 09-22-2017, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by yeah_knee

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Originally Posted by yeah_knee

The thing I?m also over analyzing is will I have incentive to really the drive the m3 over the m5 ......

And one day you will enjoy driving it. Get it all out of your system now and make sure you are getting the right vehicle. We all did it, you are not alone.

I?ve been debating this for 2 years now lol I want to have both in the garage. Just wanna make sure I?m 100% in if I do it

Two years? Yea there's no hope for you. Good luck buddy, Boof out!

GVIFlyer · 09-22-2017, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Denk

You'll feel at home with the DCT. I'd suggest trying to test drive the manual. I've had both and used to be a manual die hard but have been a DCT convert for the last 6 years. It's a beauty matched to the S65. The manual gear box isn't anything to brag about in the e9x unless you just gotta row your own gears.

Exactly right. The DCT is computer tuned to the performance characteristics of the S65 engine and maximizes it. I have the Dinan DCT software in mine and it only makes it better.

GVIFlyer · 09-22-2017, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by yeah_knee

The thing I?m also over analyzing is will I have incentive to really the drive the m3 over the m5 ......

Dunno, but I view the M5/M6 to be the perfect Autobahn burner with a Bürger at the helm. For a lithe, nimble country lane carver, I'll take the M3 every time.

Sephiroth · 09-22-2017, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by yeah_knee

The thing I?m also over analyzing is will I have incentive to really the drive the m3 over the m5 ......

If i were you i would get something totally different. Roadsters are really fun and engaging for the family too.

yeah_knee · 09-22-2017, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by yeah_knee

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Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

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Originally Posted by yeah_knee

The thing I?m also over analyzing is will I have incentive to really the drive the m3 over the m5 ......

And one day you will enjoy driving it. Get it all out of your system now and make sure you are getting the right vehicle. We all did it, you are not alone.

I?ve been debating this for 2 years now lol I want to have both in the garage. Just wanna make sure I?m 100% in if I do it

Two years? Yea there's no hope for you. Good luck buddy, Boof out!

Are you trying to tell me it?s never happening for me , or it?s inevitable ? Lol

yeah_knee · 09-22-2017, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by yeah_knee

The thing I?m also over analyzing is will I have incentive to really the drive the m3 over the m5 ......

If i were you i would get something totally different. Roadsters are really fun and engaging for the family too.

Those are cool too. I?ll do some research

BOOF-M3 · 09-22-2017, 07:38 PM

I'm just joking as usual. Only you can know what is right for you. I'll be watching the thread like others as I'm a nosy body.

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