E46 M3 ZCP Vs. E92 M3 DCT

[Dave07997S]

Originally Posted by bruce.augenstein@comcast.

OK, I give. Seriously.

I just looked up some E46 magazine times, and they're all in the low 13s, at 106-107 mph. 13.1 best.

Sheesh, my bad, and I apologize. Apparently I'm aging less than gracefully.

Anecdotally though, I was at Maple Grove Raceway earlier this year, and watched an E92 auto go 12.23, at just over 114. OK, it was a very good day, with DA at below 300 feet, but the real secret (looked the guy up later) was that the car just before him was a pro modified, and he lined up square in the middle of that guy's burnout patch.

Guy said he just gunned it, and the result was a 1.88 short! Said his previous best was a 12.5 at just under 114. Also said he couldn't wait to do some bolt-ons, in a quest for an 11 second time slip.

Not saying it's at all representative - just possible.

Bruce

Thats what I used to do, go where the burnout patches were and let the tires get caked with the VHT.

Dave

[John@R]

Let me set the record straight since that is in fact me in the E46...

Bone stock 2006 ZCP/SMG. The car felt reasonably fast when I got it but I didn't have anything to really compare it to until I ran with Mike's (Mike@Rimier) 2003 E46. His car has full exhaust, intake, pulley and tune. To our amazement, THE CARS WERE DEAD EVEN! He's run against countless other E46s in the past and spanked them.

At the time of the video I had bald tires and couldn't get much traction in first gear. The E92 was driven by a friend (160lbs) and the video was recorded by someone weighing roughly (220lbs). So there was about a 195lbs differential. The E92 had M mode fully enabled and had traction control on. I had M mode enabled with T/C off.

The only thing that Mike and I could come up with is that my motor was a "factory freak". I should have never sold that car...

[TWD]

Thanks for sharing that video! Very interesting

Does the ZCP there have the 343hp engine?
All E46 M3s in Europe and Australia have the 343hp engine as standard (along with cross drilled rotors).

I heard US/NA only got 333hp engines?
Something to do with headers/cats or something like that.

Originally Posted by mmm def

Man the E46 M3 is such a sexy looking car!!

damn right it is!!

[TWD]

Have a look at this spreadsheet I made. Analyse the Power to Weight Ratios and Gearing Ratios.

Now, as far as I understand, the E46 M3 Manual and SMG have the same ratio.
Not sure about the DCT and Manual, so in one way, it is a fair comparison, because the DCT is quicker than a Manual, so figures should be conservative, if anything...

[DylanMckay]

Originally Posted by John@RimierMotorSport

Let me set the record straight since that is in fact me in the E46...

Bone stock 2006 ZCP/SMG. The car felt reasonably fast when I got it but I didn't have anything to really compare it to until I ran with Mike's (Mike@Rimier) 2003 E46. His car has full exhaust, intake, pulley and tune. To our amazement, THE CARS WERE DEAD EVEN! He's run against countless other E46s in the past and spanked them.

At the time of the video I had bald tires and couldn't get much traction in first gear. The E92 was driven by a friend (160lbs) and the video was recorded by someone weighing roughly (220lbs). So there was about a 195lbs differential. The E92 had M mode fully enabled and had traction control on. I had M mode enabled with T/C off.

The only thing that Mike and I could come up with is that my motor was a "factory freak". I should have never sold that car...

Lean back

[jahn_baakus]

Originally Posted by Dave07997S

That being all said..loved my E46 M3.



Dave

Beautiful E46!!

[scrammer]

Originally Posted by jahn_baakus

Beautiful E46!!

Sweet ride!

[JRV]

It has something to do with Alpine White...they are fastest things on planet earth.

[TrevorM3]

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