Ferrari 458 Italia vs ESS VT625 Supercharged E92 M3 vs Switzer P800 GT-R vs Modded C6

[Nautik]

Originally Posted by Tonifyd

I wonder how long that m3 motor will last with all that strain..

I've seen E46 M3s with SC on them that have over 100k miles... (SC installed for 80k running 7psi). Granted this is a different engine, but that S54 is a tank! I would like to think BMW built a similarly bullet proof engine in the S65 but only time will tell...

[GOLFFRR]

awesome

[Nine]

M3 laying the smack down on the GT-R....love it!

[scheherazade]

WOW

This is really a great commercial for the 458.

All the other cars are modified - a LOT.

The 458 is stock, naturally aspirated, and is right there in performance.

-scheherazade

[erm324]

I think of the group, the Z06 is most impressive (best bang for the buck) and has the greatest aftermarket potential.......the only thing that hurts it is the 6MT, you can see it loses ground with every shift compared to the faster DCT-trannys of the other 3 cars.

Best looking/sounding though has to be the 458, that car is gorgeous

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by shift@red

And all they needed to beat it was a stock turbo S.

At the same time though...458 isnt even close to being in the same price bracket as any of these cars even with mod money included with the price of the car.

I guess it depends *
458 laps quicker
turbo-s drags quicker
(Generally - there's always different results on different tracks)

Either way, you'd expect that level of performance if you paid for it :P




Price wise, yeah. 240k for the italia.
gtr will run you 90k + P800.
If the P800 is like the Alpha 9, then it's at least 24K + extras + installation
Still way short of the italia.

-scheherazade

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by erm324

I think of the group, the Z06 is most impressive (best bang for the buck) and has the greatest aftermarket potential.......the only thing that hurts it is the 6MT, you can see it loses ground with every shift compared to the faster DCT-trannys of the other 3 cars.

Best looking/sounding though has to be the 458, that car is gorgeous

Very true.
The z06 was what I call 'barely modified', and it pulled hard.
Definitely the value winner by a long shot.

However, it's worth noting that from a roll, any C6 will be a beast. Great power to weight ration, and simply lots of power to begin with.
Now if the car just had more traction...

-scheherazade

[Kyoshi71]

AWESOME!!!!

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by shift@red

I really liked the way the GTR sounded too. Heard one the other night and it def has a very nice exoticish tone when modded. Alpha 9 is a sick kit.

I am torn in the exhaust note.
Stock, it's really subdued. It's hardly louder than a day to day regular car - and quieter than many.

While that is less exciting, it lets me get away with flooring it all the time without drawing attention. That in itself is a gift. I think I'd be a ticket magnet with an aftermarket exhaust.

You see the topspeed motorsports onelap car? They swept the field this year with an alpha 9 kit. It does look interesting, especially since it 'seems' rather reliable.

-scheherazade

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by shift@red

And all they needed to beat it was a stock turbo S.

At the same time though...458 isnt even close to being in the same price bracket as any of these cars even with mod money included with the price of the car.

Actually the 458 owner has a Turbo S as well and in the same type of side by side comparo's the 458 is slightly faster, he's getting an ECU flash on the Turbo S so that will certainly change things, good point on your last comments!

[Brosef]

what an impressive group of cars to get together for a drag. Drew - your car is such a beast.

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by shift@red

I would imagine from a roll the 458 should be slightly faster...from a dig is different and surely an ECU flash will spin that around.

Drew your car is def a beast! ESS makes an impressive kit.

Thanks man, agreed on the Turbo S!

[GnokGnik]

What kind of numbers were the modded cars putting out? Sorry if I missed it.

[Dan Halen]

great job drew- and ess. looks like a good time. but even with V1/LI/9500CI i think i would still be a bit shook to run that many races at those speeds- props to you! dont get me wrong- i would want to run....

[Tonifyd]

how many miles do you have on that ESS? how much did that all cost?
how is the daily drivability?

[Nautik]

Originally Posted by Dan Halen

great job drew- and ess. looks like a good time. but even with V1/LI/9500CI i think i would still be a bit shook to run that many races at those speeds- props to you! dont get me wrong- i would want to run....

I believe he was "south of the border".

[mig28]

GTR Still the Killer...No doubt!!! the Red M3 looks like a " Silent killerz" becareful guys lol

[RedGT3]

[Alessandro]

nice runs but i do not believe that the GTR had the P800 package on it they are around 710 whp.

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by Alessandro

nice runs but i do not believe that the GTR had the P800 package on it they are around 710 whp.

The GTR has a P800 package, but on 91 octane it's more like a P700 package, and that should be noted here. FWIW he made 626 whp on a mustang dyno with this setup. He also had a passenger in every run and in the initial runs with the Modded Z06 he started in the wrong gear, the last two runs with the Z06 are more indicitive of what the result should be. If the GTR was on 93-100 octane, no pass, no huge rear wing and started in the proper gear, different outcome all around.

Also every car is at full weight, there is no real weight reduction in any of the cars, unless you call taking the rear headrests out significant WR.

[Sincity]

Awesome car, Drew. Video is also nicely edited.

EDIT-You guys were out there playing that long and the Federales never came out?? It's almost like a private track rental. BTW-has JRCart hit you up for a run against his Weistec SC'd BS? I think many of us on both forums would like to see that run happen.

[Alessandro]

Drew thanks for the clarification