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      03-03-2021, 09:18 AM   #23
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35, 40, 50? Why not go off kW h like Tesla? You’re setting yourself up for consumers thinking your electric numbers are referring to battery size, immediately making consumers think = worse than Tesla (ex: P85/100D). And M “60?” The number only previously used for V12s?
They've been using this convention for the last 30+ years. As a BMW customer, I'd be more confused if I started seeing 85 or 100 after the model.
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Just the names alone make me dislike the cars.
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      03-03-2021, 09:30 AM   #25
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Just the names alone make me dislike the cars.
The names do not add or subtract from the performance metrics or battery capability on launch date. That's what really matters. It's best to redirect collective energy towards understanding what i4 has to offer vs other models.

Product planners are entitled to change their minds.
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      03-03-2021, 10:05 AM   #26
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35, 40, 50? Why not go off kW h like Tesla? You’re setting yourself up for consumers thinking your electric numbers are referring to battery size, immediately making consumers think = worse than Tesla (ex: P85/100D). And M “60?” The number only previously used for V12s?
Tesla doesn't use kWh in their model names anymore. They have Standard Range Plus, Long Range, Performance, Plaid and Plaid+. And then you have the Cybertruck thing which has Single Motor RWD, Dual Motor AWD and Tri Motor AWD.
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      03-03-2021, 10:40 AM   #27
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Visiting home currently. Drove a Model 3 yesterday then drove my father's Macan S right after.

There's really no comparison. The Model 3 is fast sure, but it feels like an appliance.

EVs are great appliances for the masses, but as a car enthusiast I'm not convinced.
LOL, the TM3 is MEANT for the masses... As "exciting" as a Toyota og Golf.

Try a Jag i-Pace or even the BMW i3 and you most likely will get hooked on BEVs.
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      03-03-2021, 11:20 AM   #28
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Very cool info, thank you! I still found it on google search but clicking the link it goes nowhere.
You can find the cached version still - but as earlier mentioned, it is only text: https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&client=safari
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      03-03-2021, 11:28 AM   #29
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I hate i. Need to burn fuel.
while I don't intend to be disagreeable, the age of burning fossil fuels to power (at least) automobiles is coming to a close. electric cars are something we will all have to come to terms with at some point, likely in the near term.

it is partly for that reason why I will forever keep my 440xi GC unicorn, hide it in a barn somewhere, and let my grandkids do the Red Barchetta thing.
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      03-03-2021, 11:38 AM   #30
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I'm convinced that BMW AG has someone on the payroll monitoring this forum 24/7 as the googled link was at 1st a 404 error and now this:

Internal Server Error

Cannot serve request to /content/bmw/marketDE/bmw_de/de/content_export/en_dvs/dvss-dcs-viz.html on this server

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Visiting home currently. Drove a Model 3 yesterday then drove my father's Macan S right after.

There's really no comparison. The Model 3 is fast sure, but it feels like an appliance. No noise, no vibrations, no gear selector, barren interior. A totally sterile experience. The Macan S on the other hand makes great noises, has tight steering with sufficient road feel, and a proper shifter.

EVs are great appliances for the masses, but as a car enthusiast I'm not convinced.
Macan S is much more expensive than a Model 3. We have a Model Y at home and agree that it's a completely different driving experience. My wife for one loves the Model Y. I like the clean interior styling. Reminds me of the original iPhone compared to the smartphones from Nokia at the time.

We used to have a Cayenne S that my wife traded in for her MY and I doubt she is ever going back to a non EV. So different markets and buyers...I am seriously considering my next to be a well optioned iX.
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LOL, the TM3 is MEANT for the masses... As "exciting" as a Toyota og Golf.

Try a Jag i-Pace or even the BMW i3 and you most likely will get hooked on BEVs.
Yeah. We drove the iPace, e-tron and Model Y. I loved the i-pace, but wife went with MY as the safe bet. Yeah, once you have an EV it is addicting for sure.
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      03-03-2021, 12:20 PM   #33
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On this photo i4 looks decent
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      03-03-2021, 12:25 PM   #34
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Tesla doesn't use kWh in their model names anymore. They have Standard Range Plus, Long Range, Performance, Plaid and Plaid+. And then you have the Cybertruck thing which has Single Motor RWD, Dual Motor AWD and Tri Motor AWD.
Haha well said
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Hopefully i4M50 has some bulging fenders and looking more aggressive. Current i4 based on the pictures is too " meh".
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      03-03-2021, 02:20 PM   #36
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Hopefully i4M50 has some bulging fenders and looking more aggressive. Current i4 based on the pictures is too " meh".
If any model were to receive those design cues/features, it would be the i4M, not the M-Performance model.
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Thanks yngulgyn.

I'm surprised they're not doing an i4 xDrive40 out of the gate. I would expect that to eventually be the volume model, similar to the 330i xDrive today (and 430i GC xDrive soon).

The names don't mean much until we get more details about the battery and motor output. I suspect the two M models (M50, M60) will have similar total power with the battery capacity being the main differentiator.
Having a non x-drive will be beneficial for the range maybe that is why the a 40 edrive is the base model?

And probably it will have the longest range if all models have the 80 kWh battery.

I don't know if x drive is really necessary with modern traction controle and electronics if you don't live in a cold climate or in the mountains.
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      03-03-2021, 02:39 PM   #38
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Electric car (vacuum cleaner)? No thanks.

I will wait for synthetic fuel.
Unfortunately for us in the UK, in 9 years time (2030) we will have no choice, as our gov't announced a ban on all new ICE engines.

There is a 5 years extension for hybrid, but I believe that is only plug-in style powertrains (I.e. it doesn't cover mild hybrids with integrated starter/generators like the M340i).

So while I agree synthetic fuels are very interesting, we won't get the chance to see in the UK if the gov't follows through and implements its announcement - which is looking very likely.
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      03-03-2021, 03:42 PM   #39
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Hey guys,

my name is Chris an I'm new here at bimmerpost.
Currently I'm driving a BMW M2 and looking forward to buy an i4 M50.

So as the production names have revealed here today, I googled "i4 eDrive40" an found this page:
Two comments:

1. Great job!
2. Never ever offer direct links. Never explain how you found it. Moreover, obfuscate the discovery in a way that makes it difficult to find independently.

I learned this lesson way back in 2013 when I just started on this path and was happy to share my methods - and then quickly found I had to invent new methods because the old ones would suddenly stop working.
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You can find the cached version still - but as earlier mentioned, it is only text: https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&client=safari
Took a screenshot just in case.
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      03-03-2021, 09:57 PM   #41
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Having a non x-drive will be beneficial for the range maybe that is why the a 40 edrive is the base model?

And probably it will have the longest range if all models have the 80 kWh battery.
Absolutely, RWD models have a place in the lineup. But that doesn’t mean they have to limit AWD to the performance model.

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I don't know if x drive is really necessary with modern traction controle and electronics if you don't live in a cold climate or in the mountains.
Based on BMW’s current product lineup, there is huge demand for AWD. AWD is available (or standard) with every engine in every single sedan and SUV they sell in the US. The same is true for some of their competitors. When it comes to premium vehicles, it’s usually not about what is necessary; it’s about what customers desire.
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That front end looks almost like the M3/4 front. Like they share the same design.
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I can see, that if you look at the source code for the website, the 2 numbers refer to the prices:

vehicle-model-code-71AW
BMW i4 eDRIVE40 Basis Drive

vehicle-model-price-71AW
65000.01 (this is German site, so I assume EUR 65.000)

vehicle-model-code-31AW
BMW i4 M50

vehicle-model-price-31AW
70000.01 (this is German site, so I assume EUR 70.000)
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I can see, that if you look at the source code for the website, the 2 numbers refer to the prices:

vehicle-model-code-71AW
BMW i4 eDRIVE40 Basis Drive

vehicle-model-price-71AW
65000.01 (this is German site, so I assume EUR 65.000)

vehicle-model-code-31AW
BMW i4 M50

vehicle-model-price-31AW
70000.01 (this is German site, so I assume EUR 70.000)
These are pretty certainly just placeholders.
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