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      03-23-2011, 09:57 PM   #1365
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Took a Blackhawk ride on Monday and snapped a shot of the young soldier next me with my Ipod Touch...after some exp. changes I finally decided it looked cooler if I used the "dry brush" filter on the photo:
Really nice effect. I bet that soldier would like to have that image, if you haven't already given it to him.
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Great bird and great shot.

I don't do it, but if you want to put a light in the eye, then use the Clone tool to take a piece of the sky and Clone some pixels into the eye. I try to get the eyelight naturally. Most wildlife photo contests will not allow any cloning, so you need to strive for the eyelight naturally. I'll take a lot of 0images, trying to notice when the eye catches the light and nail it, but it's 0not always possible. So, I might take 60 images of a bird perched like this.

For general usage, Cloning in an eyelight adds a lot of power. I don't consider it "cheating", but the image will be excluded from most contests. Generally, you can crop, adjust contrast and adjust color (slightly), but that's about it. Some contests don't even allow cropping, which blows my mind, given that 90+% of bird images are cropped.

Most people don't realize that you might spend thirty-minutes waiting on one of these guys to fly and catch the flight shot. I've even had them say to me, "You were lucky" having no idea that I'd spent an hour with one bird, trying to get a great flight shot. You know what it takes and, when you have the time, you'll get those shots.

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might play around with one or two of the pictures, i took a pile of them, i have a few i like.

unfortunatly, the bird was perched well below the canopy of the trees, so no real light was getting in.

might be able to steal something from the background, but i think anything is going to have a hint of green (but i guess that makes sense as that would be reflected in the eye.

it's interesting about the no cropping rule of the photo contests, considering people with 21-24megapixel cameras will have loads of room and loads of detail.

I guess they just want people as close as possible to the subject without disturbing it to get the best shot that fills the frame?
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      03-23-2011, 10:24 PM   #1367
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might play around with one or two of the pictures, i took a pile of them, i have a few i like.

unfortunatly, the bird was perched well below the canopy of the trees, so no real light was getting in.

might be able to steal something from the background, but i think anything is going to have a hint of green (but i guess that makes sense as that would be reflected in the eye.

it's interesting about the no cropping rule of the photo contests, considering people with 21-24megapixel cameras will have loads of room and loads of detail.

I guess they just want people as close as possible to the subject without disturbing it to get the best shot that fills the frame?
I've got a 500mm lens, a 1.6x crop factor camera and use 1.4x and 2.0x TCs, but I still crop almost everything. It seems crazy to me to limit cropping. I think that the final image IQ should be the determining factor, not whether it was cropped or not.

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I've got a 500mm lens, a 1.6x crop factor camera and use 1.4x and 2.0x TCs, but I still crop almost everything. It seems crazy to me to limit cropping. I think that the final image IQ should be the determining factor, not whether it was cropped or not.

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agreed.

does the 2.0x tc autofocus with your 500mm? i thought it only worked for F4 and under and i thought the 500 was a 5.6?

how do you like using the TCs? i've heard some people complain of slight loss to IQ, but nothing major.

I ordered one a while back, but i think the place forgot about the order (they don't take payment before orders, which is stupid of them, especially in the current economy.)

i think i'd be happy with a 1.4 since going from my 5D to my 7D is so drastic, i don't think i'd mind the 1.4 as i think the 2.0 would be massive.
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lol, could have some real fun with the moon on a 2.0x TC and that 500mm!!!! and on a crop body.
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Really nice effect. I bet that soldier would like to have that image, if you haven't already given it to him.
Funny you mention that....I just thought about giving him a copy of that photo last night. Since I have an idea of where he works at and the base I am at isn't that big it shouldn't be to hard. Thanks Dave!

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ROFL...that would be friggin' awwwesomme..LOL
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nice shot cooh23, however i would crop out the buoy or try and clone it out or something.

or turn it into a panoramic looking picture just to get the plastic health and safety device out of the picture.

and adjust the horizon line.
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horrizon wasn't too bad.

i think this would have looked better had i done the more panoramic idea of the shot.

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agreed.

does the 2.0x tc autofocus with your 500mm? i thought it only worked for F4 and under and i thought the 500 was a 5.6?

how do you like using the TCs? i've heard some people complain of slight loss to IQ, but nothing major.

I ordered one a while back, but i think the place forgot about the order (they don't take payment before orders, which is stupid of them, especially in the current economy.)

i think i'd be happy with a 1.4 since going from my 5D to my 7D is so drastic, i don't think i'd mind the 1.4 as i think the 2.0 would be massive.
The 2.0x TC is a MF-only solution on the 7D. Therefore, it only makes sense for small perched birds, macros of bugs and flowers and things where you can anticipate the focus. The AF with the 1.4xTC is fast enough to shoot BIF, but it becomes hard to track a bird simply because the angle of view is so narrow, only a few degrees.

The IQ issues with the 1.4xTC Series II and the 2.0x TC Series III is mainly at the edges, which is usually thrown into bokeh anyway. If you shoot a dollar bill nailed flat to the wall, you'll see it, but shoot a bird surrounded by leaves and you can't point to it. The III is noticeable improved over the II in the 2.0x based on the tests that I've seen, but it hardly matters. Getting pixels on a small subject trumps edge detail, generally. If you've got enough light for f/11 then they're stunning in all tests.

I only use the 2.0xTC on the tripod and often add a 25mm ET to make it a truly great macro lens.

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where was that pic taken cooh?
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where was that pic taken cooh?
Not Florida, I bet.
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Not Florida, I bet.
haha, I bet you're right, it's supposed to be 87 where i am in Fort Myers beach area today and for the next few days.... snow wouldn't last too long in that....

I sent my mom home to canada yesterday and she said she just finished removing a foot of snow from her driveway this morning.
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haha. thanks guys.

That was taken at Squaw Valley in Lake Tahoe, CA.
I actually cloned out the first buoy and the 2nd buoy kind of gives it something to look at that says "hey, the water is cold, do not go in there" haha. I didn't wanna crop it too much and make it panoramic since that's not the look I was going for. I guess you can go any direction and still have a presentable picture.

That was taken with an 85mm lens on a crop body.
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I think that's too many pixels and the Clone is placed a little off center in the eye. I'd take it up to 300% and grab some of the lighter background and place just 1 to 4 pixels right in the center of the pupil.
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