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06-04-2012, 06:41 AM | #27 |
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Sure! Try something new. The Spyder is a great car. Last edited by CPB; 06-04-2012 at 10:40 AM.. |
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06-04-2012, 06:52 AM | #28 |
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Don't do it.
All personal opinion and personal taste but I think it's ugly. I like the look of the Cayman and the regular Boxster, but it looks "puffy" to me. Step up not down get a GT3! Good luck with your decision.
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06-04-2012, 08:36 AM | #29 |
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as I need my M3 for more than just a fun car, I dont' think I woudl be very happy with a Boxster S or Cayman S.
I think the M3 engine note and exhuast is just intoxicating. Eveytime I get bored, I drop down a gear and give it some throttle and I fall back in love again. |
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06-04-2012, 08:47 AM | #30 |
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I've seen these cars at the track on I think the Boxster Spyder is a great car and I know the car is super quick in the hands of a good driver, particularly on a technical track. Light too.
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06-04-2012, 08:54 AM | #32 |
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Absolutely! A Cayman R isnt much slower (traps ~111 mph), and the handling, balance, suspension geometry and precision of it is on a completely and utterly different level than our M3s (have a friend who owned a Boxster Spyder and now has a Cayman R). There is no comparison as far as handling goes. The Spyder and R are world class performers on the track and off. Handling-wise, they are right up there with the best, the GT3/GT3RS/GT3 RS 4.0.
As far as the Z4M goes, it cannot compare. Even a 2006 Cayman S Gen I dominated the Z4M Coupe or Roadster in every aspect and the Spyder and R are again far, far above that level. |
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06-04-2012, 09:18 AM | #35 | |
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At the same time, I only go to the track 2-3 times a year, at most. So, as Mkoesel rightly pointed out, it does not make sense to own a four-seater if I really do not need it. I can always rent an SUV or borrow a friend's car for these sorts of mundane trips. And if I ever move out of one of the worst cities in the world for a driving enthusiast, I will certainly get a second car for the 'extra' duties. I don't know how I feel about the new C2S. I love it from an aesthetic point of view. However, I fear that the 911 is going the way of the M3 (larger, longer wheelbase, more isolated driving experience). As far as the 911 is concerned, to have the same driving experience as a Cayman R or Boxster spyder, you would need to move to the GT3, which is at a completely different price point. |
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Four hundred extra pounds over an E92 would not be the direction to go in for the guy looking at a Boxster Spyder. |
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My dad has a Boxster Spyder and I have driven it many times. Awesome car for canyons and track. Yes the top is a pain in the arse to put up, but it is not that bad once you know how to do it. Spyder is a great car and if the financing was better when I was looking I would have ordered one, instead of the M3. Just my .02.
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If I didn't need a back seat, the new Boxster S looks very appealing. It is definitely a "real" Porsche now and to me the best looking of all of them. If only it had another 50-80 HP.
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If you had the Cayman R at the identical price of the M3, I would buy the Cayman R hands down. Unfortunately it costs a lot more. |
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06-06-2012, 11:38 AM | #43 | |
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http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso..._cayman_r.html Cayman R is not only much faster in a straight, it is embarassingly faster in the track than a Z4MC. Just on Hockenheim the Cayman R is 5 seconds faster. And the Cayman R has run under 8 mins on the Ring where the Z4M is well above 8 mins. On other tracks you'd see 2-3 faster laps for the R on even short tracks (2 min or under). Even the 1M, which is faster than the Z4M cant touch a Cayman R, or even S for that matter. As per above, on paper they may be close, but when a Cayman R puts down ~20 more RWHP than a Z4M that s making the same crank hp its not even close. Not to mention its balance and steering are beyond superior which is worth far more than the hp and its slightly lower weight. |
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