Looking for a new wax/sealant.

[808MGuy]

I've been using SV Blau Weiss for years now and I finally ran out. Looking for something to replace it. SV seems to have gone up quite a bit in price since I last bought it and it also seems like not many places are carrying it. I'm a little bummed because I liked the look of the SV and I could get over a year of good beading with it. What else is out there? It been years since I've looked for new stuff.

[fastmike]

What about Sonax Polymer Net Shield? My coworker raves about the shine, never tried it myself.

I personally have OptiCoat on my car now.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by fastmike

What about Sonax Polymer Net Shield? My coworker raves about the shine, never tried it myself.

I personally have OptiCoat on my car now.

+1 if you want the best sealant out there it's sonax polymer net shield for sure. Waxes have somewhat died out. Only the enthusiast wax person will still appreciate or want to apply them. Coatings are the bees knees now since they have crazy durability/sheeting/beading/look.

[1SerieStud]

Blackfire Wet Diamond - love it and I've been using it for years. I refuse to change to anything else.

[W///]

I use Menzerna Powerlock sealant. Don't know if it's the absolute best product out there, but I really enjoy how it's so easy to apply and wipe off. I wouldn't mind trying the Sonax one if it's a big improvement.

Anyone care to comment why they think the Sonax is so good?

[Semi-Poor]

Originally Posted by W///

I use Menzerna Powerlock sealant. Don't know if it's the absolute best product out there, but I really enjoy how it's so easy to apply and wipe off. I wouldn't mind trying the Sonax one if it's a big improvement.

Anyone care to comment why they think the Sonax is so good?

I have used it and agree it gives a great high gloss shine with great beading. Can easily be refreshed with Sonax Brillliant Shine Detail Spray. Not sure about durability since I do not DD car or go very long without "tinkering". Downside is some find it hard to work with specifically the removal process. Apply in small sections and remove immediately. Aerosol spray requires discipline to avoid using too much. Just my .02

[808MGuy]

Thanks for the suggestions. I do already use Menzerna PL on my wife's Audi and on my wheels so I am familiar with it. I just liked the deep wet look of the SV compared to the hard bright shine of PL. A lot of people I've talked to have suggested Sonax PNS and I've even heard doing Opti-coat and going over with PNS. The scary part of these new semi-permanent coatings is how difficult they are to correct if you make a mistake.

[fastmike]

Has anyone tried Sonax PNS over OptiCoat? I wonder if it would actually look any better than just bare OptiCoat. I know they say that it probably wouldn't bond to the OptiCoat,
but like someone said earlier, I "tinker" a lot so i don't expect anything to last much at all.

Originally Posted by 808MGuy

Thanks for the suggestions. I do already use Menzerna PL on my wife's Audi and on my wheels so I am familiar with it. I just liked the deep wet look of the SV compared to the hard bright shine of PL. A lot of people I've talked to have suggested Sonax PNS and I've even heard doing Opti-coat and going over with PNS. The scary part of these new semi-permanent coatings is how difficult they are to correct if you make a mistake.

[Nola 32/65]

I personally choose C-Quartz Finest over Opti-Coat and couldn't be happier. We had it applied to the body and wheels. It's great to only have to hose the car off with only water and have the paint shine like new every time.

Ill be honest and have heard the good and bad about both the biggest constant about the Opti-coat was that it starts to fade sooner then the c-quartz and when it's time to reapply, it's a pita to take off the old coat.

[Semi-Poor]

Originally Posted by fastmike

Has anyone tried Sonax PNS over OptiCoat? I wonder if it would actually look any better than just bare OptiCoat. I know they say that it probably wouldn't bond to the OptiCoat,
but like someone said earlier, I "tinker" a lot so i don't expect anything to last much at all.

I have "tinkered" that way for car events. Doesn't last long due to bonding issue. You will get the superior beading and improved gloss for your efforts.

[Jonnykin]

longest lasting wax I've found for our brutal climate is colinite 476.... its unbelievable however a pain to work with. I heated it up for a bit with my contractor lamp then applied it. still going 5 months later. Beading galore and very resilient.

sonax polimer net sheild is the best sealant I've used so far on automobiles.

[808MGuy]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think I'm going to just stick with SV. I like the look so much better the Menzerna PL and it would be hard for me to go back now. I actually might upgrade from SV Blau-Weiss to Concorso.

Now my only problem is, why does it seem like no one sells SV anymore? You can buy directly from SV but it seems like that is the only option.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by 808MGuy

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think I'm going to just stick with SV. I like the look so much better the Menzerna PL and it would be hard for me to go back now. I actually might upgrade from SV Blau-Weiss to Concorso.

Now my only problem is, why does it seem like no one sells SV anymore? You can buy directly from SV but it seems like that is the only option.

Do what you like but waxes are becoming obsolete. That is mainly why no one sells the sv but also probably because if people do buy waxes they buy something much more affordable that yields the same results at least in durability

[Semi-Poor]

Originally Posted by 808MGuy

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think I'm going to just stick with SV. I like the look so much better the Menzerna PL and it would be hard for me to go back now. I actually might upgrade from SV Blau-Weiss to Concorso.

Now my only problem is, why does it seem like no one sells SV anymore? You can buy directly from SV but it seems like that is the only option.

One alternative, I use their products on my paint, but may buy some of this to top off/"tinker" high content less than SV.

http://www.polishangel.us/collection...nauba-creation

Link to my car write up on product site:

http://www.polishangel.us/blogs/news

[808MGuy]

Originally Posted by rjd598

Do what you like but waxes are becoming obsolete. That is mainly why no one sells the sv but also probably because if people do buy waxes they buy something much more affordable that yields the same results at least in durability

What other waxes have you used in the past? I saw a ot of recommendations for Menzerna PL which I have and I am familiar with and I have observed significantly better results with SV than the PL. So if everyone's expectations and comparisons are of that level, it seems like Sonax PNS would probably be a step back for me. If you have used other carnaubas before and can give a comparison to PNS, I'd like to hear it.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by 808MGuy

What other waxes have you used in the past? I saw a ot of recommendations for Menzerna PL which I have and I am familiar with and I have observed significantly better results with SV than the PL. So if everyone's expectations and comparisons are of that level, it seems like Sonax PNS would probably be a step back for me. If you have used other carnaubas before and can give a comparison to PNS, I'd like to hear it.

Pns is definitely better than pl

[MilehighM3]

I've been very happy with the durability of the Auto Finesse Tough Coat myself. Very easy to apply and remove and it's holding up well. Given the high altitude and the intensity of the sun at ~6k feet, I'd say that's a testament to its durability. My M3 has it so I applied it to my wife's X5 as well and both cars continue to shine and bead up nicely. It's been a year and a half on the M3 and about 6 months on the X5. I'm curious to try some of the others listed above though. Particularly the Sonax Polymer Net Shield. Does anyone have experience with both of these products?

[Semi-Poor]

Originally Posted by MilehighM3

I've been very happy with the durability of the Auto Finesse Tough Coat myself. Very easy to apply and remove and it's holding up well. Given the high altitude and the intensity of the sun at ~6k feet, I'd say that's a testament to its durability. My M3 has it so I applied it to my wife's X5 as well and both cars continue to shine and bead up nicely. It's been a year and a half on the M3 and about 6 months on the X5. I'm curious to try some of the others listed above though. Particularly the Sonax Polymer Net Shield. Does anyone have experience with both of these products?

Yes, both good, Tough Coat easier to apply but you have to use Tough Prep first for best results. My .02 is PNS has slight edge looks wise durability hard for me to call too much "tinkering".

[W///]

Originally Posted by MilehighM3

I've been very happy with the durability of the Auto Finesse Tough Coat myself. Very easy to apply and remove and it's holding up well. Given the high altitude and the intensity of the sun at ~6k feet, I'd say that's a testament to its durability. My M3 has it so I applied it to my wife's X5 as well and both cars continue to shine and bead up nicely. It's been a year and a half on the M3 and about 6 months on the X5. I'm curious to try some of the others listed above though. Particularly the Sonax Polymer Net Shield. Does anyone have experience with both of these products?

A year and a half? Good grief.

I normally hate detailing (I'd rather be driving ) but this almost makes me want to detail my E92 next weekend.

[Semi-Poor]

Originally Posted by W///

A year and a half? Good grief.

I normally hate detailing (I'd rather be driving ) but this almost makes me want to detail my E92 next weekend.

I get twitchy after a month and must tinker.

[MilehighM3]

Originally Posted by W///

A year and a half? Good grief.

I normally hate detailing (I'd rather be driving ) but this almost makes me want to detail my E92 next weekend.

Well I have only put 9k miles on the car in over a year and a half. The sealant is holding up so well I just do a light mist of quick detailer while drying and it's good to go. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[s85e90]

I stick with my sealant and wax (collinite) even just wax alone. Nothing feels like wax.