F82 M4 offer enough benefit over the e92 M3 to justify jumping into it?

[Killerfish2012]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

....and most here will consider his testimony relevant, but I'm sure there will be naysayers. It's just the name of the forum game. My car hit the VPC early this morning. Hopefully my dealer has it by Monday. I'm ready for hooliganism!

Dude, enjoy your new car!! Drive safely on public roads, and take it to the track! We have to agree to disagree amicably on this new Model's place in BMW, and automotive history for now. Since you were banned from the F80 M3/4 forums, you seem to have found comradery with us here in this section. That's great, but keep in mind that some of us are entitled to our opinions, especially when we're not counting down the days to delivery of a brand new car like you are

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by gabadoo

Not trying to split hairs here but it is a better performing CAR. To say it is the better performing engine I would disagree with. Power adders are power adders.

+1. Can't agree with it either.

[Sedan_Clan]

Why the sky is not falling. (or: perspective, please) http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=989324

[nujabes24]

Originally Posted by W///

Anyone else seen the Chris Harris review? He adores the F80. It was actually a great review, and a huge contrast to the Steve Sutcliffe review.

Let me reiterate that I love my E92 and plan to keep it for a while. But if you take away the S65, what do you have left?
Best handling? No
Heaviest? Yes
Best brakes? No
Collector item? No

Don't get me wrong, for under $40k, there's no other car I'd rather have than a used E9x M3. I realize the S65 makes the car, it's the heartbeat of the E9x. But the F80, as a package, is pretty damn amazing.

(Flame suit on)

I agree with you, thats why i just ordered a MW M4. Stil keeping my E92 i love that car but needed to upgrade.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by W///

Anyone else seen the Chris Harris review? He adores the F80. It was actually a great review, and a huge contrast to the Steve Sutcliffe review.

Let me reiterate that I love my E92 and plan to keep it for a while. But if you take away the S65, what do you have left?
Best handling? No
Heaviest? Yes
Best brakes? No
Collector item? No

Don't get me wrong, for under $40k, there's no other car I'd rather have than a used E9x M3. I realize the S65 makes the car, it's the heartbeat of the E9x. But the F80, as a package, is pretty damn amazing.

(Flame suit on)

F80 is a fine car but lets be honest. Chris Harris is an M3 fanboy. Did you expect anything else cause I didn't.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by dmk08

F80 is a fine car but lets be honest. Chris Harris is an M3 fanboy. Did you expect anything else cause I didn't.

...and Sutcliffe is more of an M3 hater. It's pretty balanced.

[Rambler]

Originally Posted by dmk08

F80 is a fine car but lets be honest. Chris Harris is an M3 fanboy. Did you expect anything else cause I didn't.

Chris Harris is an excellent driver but basically anything that can drift gets a great review and a series of fake laughs.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Rambler

Chris Harris is an excellent driver but basically anything that can drift gets a great review and a series of fake laughs.

Did you criticize his E9X M3 review like this? Shit, I was giggling [at the video], and I wasn't even the one behind the wheel. God knows what I'll feel like when it's actually me.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

...and Sutcliffe is more of an M3 hater. It's pretty balanced.

I agree.

[Rambler]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Did you criticize his E9X M3 review like this? Shit, I was giggling [at the video], and I wasn't even the one behind the wheel. God knows what I'll feel like when it's actually me.

Actually, my comment was not aimed directly at his review of the F80 but more in general. I'm not disputing the merits of the car, more so his reviews as of late. I'm just tiring of the reviews that are basically just one long drift, whether it be the F80, E90, or any other car.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Rambler

Actually, my comment was not aimed directly at his review of the F80 but more in general. I'm not disputing the merits of the car, more so his reviews as of late. I'm just tiring of the reviews that are basically just one long drift.

Funny you say that. I never really watched Chris Harris reviews til lately. First was the GT3, a few in between, and now the M4. My first thought was 'all this guy cares about is how well it drifts'.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Funny you say that. I never really watched Chris Harris reviews til lately. First was the GT3, a few in between, and now the M4. My first thought was 'all this guy cares about is how well it drifts'.

If you look at the full review, you'll realize that isn't the case at all. The drifts are just icing.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

If you look at the full review, you'll see that isn't the case at all. The drifts are just icing.

I watched the full review. We know you have an M3 on order and it's going to be OMGWTFBBQ. You don't have to keep reminding us lowly E92 guys

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by dmk08

I watched the full review. We know you have an M3 on order and it's going to be OMGWTFBBQ. You don't have to keep reminding us lowly E92 guys

I was once a lowly E9X guy too.................three times (..and a slightly less lowly E46 M3 guy two times...lol).


P.S. M4! ...and it's at the port. I just got chills!

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I was once a lowly E9X guy too.................three times (..and a slightly less lowly E46 M3 guy two times...lol).


P.S. M4! ...and it's at the port. I just got chills!

Sorry were they out of M3 allocations? LOL JK.

No man excited for you sure it's going to be awesome. I've got a few long months of waiting ahead of me. I'm just glad I have not had one pull up next to me on the road yet. I would probably go directly to the dealer ha ha.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Rambler

Actually, my comment was not aimed directly at his review of the F80 but more in general. I'm not disputing the merits of the car, more so his reviews as of late. I'm just tiring of the reviews that are basically just one long drift, whether it be the F80, E90, or any other car.

I don't agree with that at all. His format is always the same (yes it includes drifts), but I think the recipe works.

Look at how he went through all the things that we'd care about, almost like a list.
- Steering: no feel, but likes it better than E92. Here's why
- Suspension: Planted, turn in great
- Sound: sounds almost like a 335d. Not as good as V8, but still great
- Power: torque
ect ect ect...

He does that with all cars. Starts off on the road, then goes to track. I mean, what else do you want from a reviewer?

Honestly, these reviews don't matter that much to me as I've already driven the car. I just think that Chris Harris does a great job describing what I'd be like to actually be driving the car. Unlike Jeremy Clarkson that does stupid sht for 10 mins, and then let's the Stig take it out for a lap --> that tells me absolutely nothing about a car.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I was once a lowly E9X guy too.................three times (..and a slightly less lowly E46 M3 guy two times...lol).


P.S. M4! ...and it's at the port. I just got chills!

So what does that make me as an E36 driver??

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by W///

So what does that make me as an E36 driver??

Unfortunate...

























i kid.. i kid Warot

[W///]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Unfortunate...

























i kid.. i kid Warot

Hahaha. Thank goodness I don't drive an E30 M3. Those peasants.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by W///

Hahaha. Thank goodness I don't drive an E30 M3. Those peasants.

While I like the E30 I wouldn't want to drive one except for maybe a fun test drive.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by W///

So what does that make me as an E36 driver??

Owner of the last real ///M car.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Owner of the last real ///M car.

Does the E46 M3 offer enough benefit over the E36 M3 to justify jumping into it?



P.S. On a serious note, but completely unrelated to this thread.... I've never liked the E36 to be honest. Nowhere as good looking as the rest. But damn it is fun. And cheap.