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12-06-2013, 04:29 PM | #1 |
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increased emissions & battery discharge warning in cold?
Weather was cold over night -16C (3.2F) car started fine. 8 hours later comfort access didn't work and two warnings displayed: Increased emissions and Increased battery discharge.
I can't make it to the dealer in winter. Has anyone experienced this effect due to cold? |
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8 hours later, but how much of that was parked and how long was the drive? A battery that is close to it's end of life will definitely be pushed that last little bit by colder weather, but the length of the daily commute is also a factor. If it's a short drive then parked all day, day after day, that also tends to push the battery to the end of it's life a little faster. How old is your car?
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12-08-2013, 06:28 PM | #8 |
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I quite literally just had my battery replaced 3 months ago, and I'm facing all of the above symptoms now that the cold weather has begun.
I commute 24 miles round trip every day. Do I have to replace my battery again? Or are these symptoms nothing to worry about, and will be fine once Spring comes around?
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Both issues are gone now that I charged. Made a point of driving a bit more over the weekend too. |
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I've gotten both warnings on real cold evenings. The Increased Emissions only occurred once and then went away a day later. The Increased Battery Discharge happens more often on very cold days.
I had them check it out when the car was for service and they measured the battery and said it was fine. The dealer suggested that it would stay latched if it was a serious issue with the battery. It goes away if I restart the car and does not seem to latch in the fault state. If I still see this warning when the weather warms up, I'll be taking it back in for service.
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I had similiar problem and it was the alternator. Mine is daily driver. Overtime I got similiar issues and they only got more freqeunt ( once a month range ).
Alternator is expensive ($1K) and had to ship from the fatherland.
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A low capacity (worn-out) battery will make the alternator work harder/overheat and burnout the internal diodes. Now you will need a new alternator and battery.
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Most people, once they experience a weak battery will opt to replace it. |
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The alternator and it's cooling was designed for refilling the battery after normal starting discharge and to provide additional power with the engine running. It was not designed to provide all the power and recharge a dead battery. The excess heat will cause a diode to fail. The average tech will replace the whole alternator not just the failed diode. A rebuilt Alternator/generator listed on RealOem.com is $645 dealer price not including labor. |
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Strange when people keep re-charging an already weak battery as if that will some how restore it. Once weakened, the fluid inside cannot flow electrons efficiently anymore and it has to be changed. |
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