There is no speed limiter?

aggs400 · 12-23-2008, 11:14 PM

I just went 165 mph and the speed limiter never kicked in. I it sould of kicked in on 155 mph. Did i miss something here?

M2381 · 12-23-2008, 11:56 PM

Nope I think the speed limiter is at 170 something

grayshrk · 12-23-2008, 11:57 PM

Previously reported that the speedo is off a few mph.

MrHarris · 12-24-2008, 02:46 AM

The speed limiter is only in 6th gear. You can max out your 5th gear. I hit 165 the other day in 5th

MMMorish · 12-24-2008, 04:20 AM

I wonder if Canadian spec'd cars are the same (without limiter)?

Deda · 12-24-2008, 06:14 AM

cool info.

Big Windy · 12-24-2008, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrHarris

The speed limiter is only in 6th gear. You can max out your 5th gear. I hit 165 the other day in 5th

I don't think this is true. I hit 170 in 6th gear without a problem. I'm sure it was more like 165mph actual due to the speedo being a bit optimistic, but the whole 6th vs. 5th gear thing is not accurate.

BimmerRob08 · 12-24-2008, 08:53 AM

the book says the US spec M3's are speed limited to 155mph. Has anyone experianced a higher speed in other spec's? European, Canadian, etc M3? Has everyone with US spec M3's gotten the car up past 160mph at least? I've not had a chance to get mine up past 140mph since these roads/highways here suck and there are allot of speed traps/camera's & cops everywhere. I'll have to test this out sometime on a good long highway.

lugnut · 12-24-2008, 09:42 AM

I've hit an indicated 175mph in my US spec e92 M3. I haven't had a chance since the winter hit to verify this w/ a GPS unit, but plan to once springtime comes around. It has been my experience that the M cars seem to have a softer limiter in place than other BMWs. My previous M3 also ran past the 155limit. Granted, there is going to be some error in the speedo, but I can't believe that it would be 20mph off.

Of course, a friend of mine has an e39 M5, and he bounces off his limiter at 155 so who knows.

wallerman · 12-24-2008, 09:50 AM

Error on the spedo doesn't sound like the culprit here.

If that were the case, the M has a false (or "erro-prone") speed calculation for the spedo, and another (non "error-prone") means to calculate speed for limiter purposes.

Just doesn't make sense.

aggs400 · 12-24-2008, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugnut

I've hit an indicated 175mph in my US spec e92 M3. I haven't had a chance since the winter hit to verify this w/ a GPS unit, but plan to once springtime comes around. It has been my experience that the M cars seem to have a softer limiter in place than other BMWs. My previous M3 also ran past the 155limit. Granted, there is going to be some error in the speedo, but I can't believe that it would be 20mph off.

Of course, a friend of mine has an e39 M5, and he bounces off his limiter at 155 so who knows.

I traded E39 M5 for E92 M3, and I went over 170 mph on M5, but i got the M5 used, so its possible it had limiter taken off.

mPlasticDesign · 12-24-2008, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BimmerRob08

the book says the US spec M3's are speed limited to 155mph. Has anyone experianced a higher speed in other spec's? European, Canadian, etc M3? Has everyone with US spec M3's gotten the car up past 160mph at least? I've not had a chance to get mine up past 140mph since these roads/highways here suck and there are allot of speed traps/camera's & cops everywhere. I'll have to test this out sometime on a good long highway.

I haven't found anything in the owners manual indicating a 155 gov speed limiter. The E46 was top speed limted to 155mph but the E90 might be higher (160 maybe). The article does say..."Despite the claimed 155-mph limiter, our test car crept past it to 161 mph."

CAR AND DRIVER February 2008

Name: specs.JPG
Views: 1223
Size: 45.2 KB

Name: specs.JPG
Views: 1223
Size: 45.2 KB

Voltigeur · 12-24-2008, 11:36 AM

Yep, reckon there's some speedo error in some observations.

icemang17 · 12-27-2008, 10:34 AM

Theres a video of a USA spec E92 hitting an indicated 170mph on the autobahn when a soft limiter kicks in

aggs400 · 12-27-2008, 01:06 PM

I just drove with a hand held navigation that shows current speed in my 4Runner, and in my M3. The speed in the 4Runner matched what the Nav was showing, but in M3 the speedo was off. While Nav showed 75mph, M3 speedo showed around 83mph.
I am thinking of going to a shop that can officially calibrate speedometers and get a reading of my speedometer. And if it is truly off get, the BMW to FIX it under warranty, what do you guy think?

09E92M34ME · 12-27-2008, 02:59 PM

I read Kingleh's post where he went to Daytona and hit 168mph on his gps so maybe the M does have a higher limiter than they are stating.

GregW / Oregon · 12-27-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aggs400

I just drove with a hand held navigation that shows current speed in my 4Runner, and in my M3. The speed in the 4Runner matched what the Nav was showing, but in M3 the speedo was off. While Nav showed 75mph, M3 speedo showed around 83mph.
I am thinking of going to a shop that can officially calibrate speedometers and get a reading of my speedometer. And if it is truly off get, the BMW to FIX it under warranty, what do you guy think?

As I uderstand it, German TUV regulations require speedometers to never read under true speed, though they are allowed to read over. Therefore, most German makes calibrate to the safe side to allow for tire differences, etc. 8-10% off, as you measured, is not unheard of. In that case, 170mph indicated would be around 155.

BimmerRob08 · 12-27-2008, 05:19 PM

I'll have to correct myself here, earlier in my responce I said, "in the manual it states a 155mph limit" I think I got that mixed up with what the 335i's brochure has that I picked up from BMW before purchasing the M3. I can't reference my M3 manual right now as I'm in Italy on leave but I do remember seeing something about the limiter at that speed or I guess it was 161 or 165mph. Can't confirm. But this is interesting about the speedo having an error. So does everyone find that the error is at higher speeds?

ibrennan · 12-27-2008, 06:52 PM

I just wanted to chime in and say i hit a 169mph indicated when the limiter kicked in on mine

CodeRed · 12-27-2008, 07:34 PM

What is the purpose of a speed limiter at 161 miles per hour, does an extra 20 mph make you anymore reckless

tallycoolies · 12-27-2008, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aggs400

I just went 165 mph and the speed limiter never kicked in. I it sould of kicked in on 155 mph. Did i miss something here?

Now you live in Philly and went 165.... Where did you do that I REALLY need to know

I-95 is bumpy as hell, 76 has too much curve... and the roads are like shiet... route one.. just forget it~!! THanks in advance~

AwesomeM3 · 12-27-2008, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibrennan

I just wanted to chime in and say i hit a 169mph indicated when the limiter kicked in on mine

Did you hit that speed locally?

12-23-2008, 11:14 PM	#1
aggs400 Private 8 Rep 52 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Black CFR 6SP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	There is no speed limiter? I just went 165 mph and the speed limiter never kicked in. I it sould of kicked in on 155 mph. Did i miss something here?
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

12-23-2008, 11:56 PM	#2
M2381 Major 32 Rep 1,286 Posts Drives: E92 M3, GTI Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	Nope I think the speed limiter is at 170 something __________________
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-23-2008, 11:57 PM	#3
grayshrk Private 1 Rep 95 Posts Drives: 2008 Graphite E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Previously reported that the speedo is off a few mph.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-24-2008, 02:46 AM	#4
MrHarris yodog 197 Rep 5,025 Posts Drives: '86 Corolla Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Diamond Bar, Ca iTrader: (5) Garage List 2009 BMW [10.00]	The speed limiter is only in 6th gear. You can max out your 5th gear. I hit 165 the other day in 5th __________________ 2009 E92 M3 \| Alpine White \| Black Extended \| Advan RS \| Turner Test Pipes \| Dinan Axle-Back \| OETuning \| Eibach Springs \| UUC SSK \| VRS Front Lip \| VRS Type I Diffuser \| Matte Black \| RPi Scoops \| MS Filter \| Yokohama AD08 \| F1 Pinnacle Special Thanks: Gintani \| OETuning \| eAs
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-24-2008, 04:20 AM	#5
MMMorish Just call me J.J. McClure 156 Rep 2,834 Posts Drives: E92 M3 & C4 Corvette Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Toronto iTrader: (5)	I wonder if Canadian spec'd cars are the same (without limiter)? __________________ MODS: Meisterschaft GT Racing Exhaust / BMC Air Filter / UUC SSK & DSSR (Modded)/ RPI Scoops / Passport SRX Hardwired / Custom Wrap 3M Clearbra / 20% Tint / 50% Windshield Tint / Key Hole Delete / Matted Out Accessories / VRS Type II Diffuser / Smoked Reflectors / Euphoria 6K LED Interior Lights / Rear Fog Light Mod / 6000K HID's / 6500K LUX H8 Angel Eyes / RDash License Plate LED Kit / LED Xenon Reverse Lights "M3 drivers have no friends"
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-24-2008, 06:14 AM	#6
Deda Major General 564 Rep 7,034 Posts Drives: BMW M5 comp Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Croatia iTrader: (0)	cool info.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-24-2008, 08:53 AM	#8
BimmerRob08 Major 110 Rep 1,311 Posts Drives: 2008 M3, Space Gray Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: KIKR (ABQ), NM iTrader: (0)	the book says the US spec M3's are speed limited to 155mph. Has anyone experianced a higher speed in other spec's? European, Canadian, etc M3? Has everyone with US spec M3's gotten the car up past 160mph at least? I've not had a chance to get mine up past 140mph since these roads/highways here suck and there are allot of speed traps/camera's & cops everywhere. I'll have to test this out sometime on a good long highway.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-24-2008, 09:42 AM	#9
lugnut First Lieutenant 8 Rep 354 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Space/Fox Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Watchung, NJ iTrader: (0)	I've hit an indicated 175mph in my US spec e92 M3. I haven't had a chance since the winter hit to verify this w/ a GPS unit, but plan to once springtime comes around. It has been my experience that the M cars seem to have a softer limiter in place than other BMWs. My previous M3 also ran past the 155limit. Granted, there is going to be some error in the speedo, but I can't believe that it would be 20mph off. Of course, a friend of mine has an e39 M5, and he bounces off his limiter at 155 so who knows. __________________ 18 XC90 T6 Inscription (Silver/Black) 16 981 GTS (All Black Everything) 12 E70 X5d Black Saphire/ Tobacco (RIP) 08 E92 M3 SG/Fox Red Gintani Race (sold), RG63 02 E46 M3 Cab Imola, E36 Z3 Atlanta Blue/Tan
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-24-2008, 09:50 AM	#10
wallerman Enlisted Member 0 Rep 33 Posts Drives: '08 e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	Error on the spedo doesn't sound like the culprit here. If that were the case, the M has a false (or "erro-prone") speed calculation for the spedo, and another (non "error-prone") means to calculate speed for limiter purposes. Just doesn't make sense.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-24-2008, 11:36 AM	#13
Voltigeur MacroRisk 109 Rep 2,523 Posts Drives: M3 E92 ED'09 / 335d Sport DD Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Yep, reckon there's some speedo error in some observations. __________________ Just thinking of something not so witty ///M3 E92 '09 Jerez Black \| 6MT \| Ext Fox Red \| Tech \| Prem \| 19s \|Heated Seats \| iPod \|Smartphone \| Euro Deliv June 09 Sold: 540iT / 530i / 323i
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-27-2008, 10:34 AM	#14
icemang17 Captain 41 Rep 644 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stockton CA iTrader: (0)	Theres a video of a USA spec E92 hitting an indicated 170mph on the autobahn when a soft limiter kicks in __________________ Brian 2008 E92 M3, MR, DCT, extended BB leather, loaded! 1988 Porsche 928S4, Guards red/Champagne leather 1989 Porsche 928S4 track beast!!!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-27-2008, 01:06 PM	#15
aggs400 Private 8 Rep 52 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Black CFR 6SP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0)	I just drove with a hand held navigation that shows current speed in my 4Runner, and in my M3. The speed in the 4Runner matched what the Nav was showing, but in M3 the speedo was off. While Nav showed 75mph, M3 speedo showed around 83mph. I am thinking of going to a shop that can officially calibrate speedometers and get a reading of my speedometer. And if it is truly off get, the BMW to FIX it under warranty, what do you guy think?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-27-2008, 02:59 PM	#16
09E92M34ME Captain 70 Rep 920 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: VIRGINIA iTrader: (0)	I read Kingleh's post where he went to Daytona and hit 168mph on his gps so maybe the M does have a higher limiter than they are stating.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-27-2008, 05:19 PM	#18
BimmerRob08 Major 110 Rep 1,311 Posts Drives: 2008 M3, Space Gray Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: KIKR (ABQ), NM iTrader: (0)	I'll have to correct myself here, earlier in my responce I said, "in the manual it states a 155mph limit" I think I got that mixed up with what the 335i's brochure has that I picked up from BMW before purchasing the M3. I can't reference my M3 manual right now as I'm in Italy on leave but I do remember seeing something about the limiter at that speed or I guess it was 161 or 165mph. Can't confirm. But this is interesting about the speedo having an error. So does everyone find that the error is at higher speeds?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-27-2008, 06:52 PM	#19
ibrennan Private First Class 78 Rep 180 Posts Drives: Frozen Gray M3 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bucks County, PA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2020 BMW M2 CS [0.00] 2018 BMW M3 CS [0.00] 2011 BMW M3 Coupe [0.00]	I just wanted to chime in and say i hit a 169mph indicated when the limiter kicked in on mine
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-27-2008, 07:34 PM	#20
CodeRed Private First Class 7 Rep 152 Posts Drives: '08 E90 & 67 Alfa GTV Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: God's country iTrader: (3)	What is the purpose of a speed limiter at 161 miles per hour, does an extra 20 mph make you anymore reckless
	Appreciate 0 Quote