M3 at 9,985 RPM... oops

BPMSport · 04-02-2013, 02:10 AM

Was tuning and coding a car a few days ago overseas. I usually check to see if the customer has existing fault codes and the number of times it has seen redline before tuning.

What I saw on this car suprised me....

It hit 9,985 RPM.

Now I've seen 9,300 before, and other high numbers. Even an E60 M5 V10 up to 9,100. But almost 10K?!? Never.

You'll notice under the maximum rev recorded that it shows the reference RPM at vanos at 125 RPM. Ususally this number is very close to the RPM measured at the crank. Sounds like something broke.

And to top this all off - this is a DCT car. We've tuned roughly 200 M3's in the last few months, and I have never seen a stock DCT car record a rev higher than 8,600 unless it had a raised rev limit.

My car has seen 9K before. Certainly not going any higher than that!

IMG · 04-02-2013, 06:36 AM

GOD Damn.Good stuff.

ChrisDUS · 04-02-2013, 07:18 AM

Strage is that:

- 1st gear
- standstill
- accelerator pedal not pushed

But, the engine was warm at least

. But somehow the 9985 figure is not plausible to me.

MilehighM3 · 04-02-2013, 07:27 AM

Doesn't seem plausible, especially In a DCT car. Finally found a car that's bad at math!
200 cars tuned? Not a bad chunk of change!

malaysiantransporter · 04-02-2013, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisDUS

Strage is that:

- 1st gear
- standstill
- accelerator pedal not pushed

But, the engine was warm at least

. But somehow the 9985 figure is not plausible to me.

I thought that was the current data, and the 9985 was the maximum stored.
i.e. the car was stationary when Benvo snapped that pic.

M3takesNYC · 04-02-2013, 12:49 PM

So the owner did not know this happened? And if something broke was the car still driving all this time?

Goes to show you I have no idea how a warranty claim would know you upped your redline if so many random cars register a higher than 8600 max rpm at some point even without a tune.

Bizarre that its capable of that.

So the car was completely fine otherwise?

j2m · 04-02-2013, 02:50 PM

VCMpower · 04-02-2013, 02:57 PM

Enough change to bolt on a personal SC kit I would think

QUOTE=Bmw135er;13746354]Doesn't seem plausible, especially In a DCT car. Finally found a car that's bad at math!
200 cars tuned? Not a bad chunk of change![/QUOTE]

SflBimmer8484 · 04-02-2013, 03:10 PM

Hope he doesn't blame the tuner for blowing his engine one day -_-

So whats the story how did he manage this?

MilehighM3 · 04-02-2013, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Hope he doesn't blame the tuner for blowing his engine one day -_-

So whats the story how did he manage this?

:

M3PO · 04-02-2013, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Hope he doesn't blame the tuner for blowing his engine one day -_-

So whats the story how did he manage this?

This post is wrong in SO MANY ways!

VCMpower · 04-02-2013, 03:33 PM

Ahhhh , who do we blame then ;0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Hope he doesn't blame the tuner for blowing his engine one day -_-

So whats the story how did he manage this?

mark896 · 04-02-2013, 03:41 PM

Whoa--any chance of a software error/glitch?

SflBimmer8484 · 04-02-2013, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCMpower

Ahhhh , who do we blame then ;0

Blame yourself.

VCMpower · 04-02-2013, 04:34 PM

That was my case in point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Blame yourself.

Longboarder · 04-02-2013, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lute

So OP do you know what happened?

^ ^ ^ yeah how does this happen on a DCT Mike?

M3takesNYC · 04-02-2013, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Blame yourself.

This is ignorant. A DCT car owner really has no way of purposely overrevving his car so of course its reasonable that if he did have a tune that something was atleast worth looking into. Tuners are not unfallable. I am not saying it was the cause but it certainly is not a "blame yourself" situation given its impossible to do anything wrong in a DCT. The engine may have just broken but than how did he drive it for the past however many months.

Bizarre. I wish some tuner made a package for a 9k redline with new springs, cams and a tune. I would pay 5k for the package

j2m · 04-02-2013, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3takesNYC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Blame yourself.

This is ignorant. A DCT car owner really has no way of purposely overrevving his car so of course its reasonable that if he did have a tune that something was atleast worth looking into. Tuners are not unfallable. I am not saying it was the cause but it certainly is not a "blame yourself" situation given its impossible to do anything wrong in a DCT. The engine may have just broken but than how did he drive it for the past however many months.

Bizarre. I wish some tuner made a package for a 9k redline with new springs, cams and a tune. I would pay 5k for the package

Gotta keep up with the sarcasm, he's joking.
Reference to another thread.
VCMpower is running an AA blower

VCMpower · 04-02-2013, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3takesNYC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Blame yourself.

This is ignorant. A DCT car owner really has no way of purposely overrevving his car so of course its reasonable that if he did have a tune that something was atleast worth looking into. Tuners are not unfallable. I am not saying it was the cause but it certainly is not a "blame yourself" situation given its impossible to do anything wrong in a DCT. The engine may have just broken but than how did he drive it for the past however many months.

Bizarre. I wish some tuner made a package for a 9k redline with new springs, cams and a tune. I would pay 5k for the package

It's all good man. We are just poking fun

///M Ryder · 04-02-2013, 08:39 PM

Mike, give us some insight....how can this be?....................Phil

SflBimmer8484 · 04-02-2013, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCMpower

It's all good man. We are just poking fun

I'm actually shock you guys even knew what I was referring too.

VCMpower · 04-02-2013, 09:23 PM

They're watching us Andrew!

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