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05-18-2012, 12:03 PM | #89 | |
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05-18-2012, 12:09 PM | #90 | |
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05-18-2012, 12:27 PM | #91 |
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I don't see any feasible way a spacer could break/tear like that unless the bolts holding the wheel either backed out or broke first allowing the wheel to shift outward. There is a line on the spacer where the break on it occurred that looks like it could have only occurred when the edge of the wheel moved outward to where it was past the lip of the hub allowing the wheel to sheer of the lip of the spacer.
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05-18-2012, 12:42 PM | #92 | |
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05-18-2012, 12:47 PM | #93 |
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How do you not understand hubcentric wheel design where the center bore of the wheel and the wheel hub are the load bearing parts??????? Yes the part that sticks out is part of the hub!
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05-18-2012, 12:55 PM | #95 |
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FYI>>just so you know the HACK is a driving instructor..so he knows a thing or two
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05-18-2012, 01:04 PM | #97 | |
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tibra - sorry I was responding to someone else
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The hub carries the load, true, the load is transmitted through the tension on the bolts/lugs, which only works reliably because they aren't constantly battered by the wheel sliding around on the hub face, hence hub-centricity for location purposes. That weenie little 1/16" thick lip on the hub doesn't carry the majority of it. Go ahead and put 3000+lbs of force on that little lip and let us know what happens, please take video.
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But hey. What do I know.
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05-18-2012, 01:09 PM | #99 | |
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I'm going to stop responding to this thread, It's not constructive. I still uphold my point of view on the topic. Lug bolts are not the primary load bearing points on a modern hubcentric wheel and hub design.
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05-18-2012, 01:23 PM | #100 |
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When do you guys torque the lugs at a track day? Before going out when it's had time to cool down, or when it's still hot after a session?
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05-18-2012, 01:24 PM | #101 | |
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I'm sure Macht Schnell will take care of it for you. They have been very responsive for me. I'm sure they will get you taken care of. Talk to Tom @ Macht Schnell. Last edited by wwjd15; 05-18-2012 at 02:52 PM.. |
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Just to prove my point, The HACK seems to think a 2012 Competition M3 has a V10!!!!!!!! http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...4#post11988244
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05-18-2012, 01:35 PM | #104 | |
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Not much reading comprehension can be had behind 4 letters and 2 numbers. **EDIT** Wondering if you guys noticed that an EAS/MS reseller is proving my point. haha.
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05-18-2012, 01:37 PM | #105 | |
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05-18-2012, 01:41 PM | #106 |
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So.... Are you saying that your post of "Congrats. V10 FTW!" was a clear and concise expression of either your humor or a valid suggestion to the original poster?
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I know you have a huge beef with EAS. I can completely feel for you in regards to vendors not treating you right. But trying to make any issue that has their name in it into something that it may or may not be really isn't needed. People agree and they disagree. In this case the majority seem to disagree with you on this topic. No biggie, just take it as it is. |
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05-18-2012, 01:53 PM | #108 | |
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My first post stated that I too thought the spacer only failed due to failure of the bolts. You seem to think it's perfectly ok that EAS/MS resells them, but apparently since they may or may not manufacture them, completely gets them off the hook for any QC concerns. Now, fast forward and we see more evidence that EAS/MS has had QC issues with spacers as well. With all this said, can you honestly say you would run EAS/MS spacers on your own vehicle, even if it's just for daily driving purposes? Beyond what my feelings of EAS or Macht Schnell may be, these are facts. Yes I may have bias against EAS or MS, but that doesn't mean I can't be objective. Truth is, they make an inferior product, and to use your logic, the end customer can have no faith in the bolts they supply, and at best only questionable faith in the strength of the branded spacers.
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