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Never had an E46 though there's still a chance in the future. I was pretty active here with my E92 though.
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07-30-2018, 03:59 PM | #92 | |
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07-30-2018, 07:17 PM | #93 |
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07-30-2018, 09:18 PM | #94 |
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Hypersensitivity to aftermarket tunes is one of the biggest (negative!) indicators of quality right there... remember when BMW became sensitive to 335 tunes? It was due to poor quality on the Conti fuel pumps and fuel injectors that were failing on stock cars.
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07-31-2018, 07:27 AM | #95 |
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They are sensitive on the new school F series M car tunes as well. You can extract so much more power out of a turbo car with just a tune that there is a much larger chance of things breaking due to it.
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08-08-2018, 07:30 AM | #96 |
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Great Video by my friend. Check it out. My car had a small appearance at the end.
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09-04-2018, 02:17 AM | #97 |
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Wasn't in my E92 but I was in my F80 when a Coyote 5.0 GT wanted to play.
Me = 2017 M3 DCT w/Stage 1 flash, have no idea what mods "if any" the Mustang had. Caught it on my dash cams. Mustang did the honking. |
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09-13-2018, 10:17 PM | #98 |
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Wow he might as well be in a Ford Fusion. Missed a shift? It was not even fair
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09-24-2018, 09:59 PM | #100 |
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Well the Mustang GT PP2 did not fare well in Lightning Lap trials at VIR. Turns out they overheated after 3 laps or less due to lack of cooling systems (on the rear diff I believe was the main culprit).
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09-25-2018, 07:28 PM | #102 |
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I want that new 5.0 GT engine.
Will add to the stable, not replace M3
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09-27-2018, 11:46 PM | #103 |
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The lap times of the Mustang GT with PP2 at VIR and Laguna Seca are impressive (on par with the M4 GTS). Yes, the laps aren't repeatable after multiple laps, but a stock E9x M3 had its own issues with the stock brakes and when driven pretty hard in high temps, would limp mode.
As far as the GT350 (speaking of the R version), the Magneride suspension is light years ahead of any M3 for sure stock and vs most coilover setups. The car actually feels lighter and more nimble than the M3, though I think the CF wheels have a lot to do with it, as many people on the Mustang forums have driven both and feel quite a bit of difference with the R. The R in the corners can keep up and in many cases exceed any smaller/lighter car out there, including the GT3, 458s, S2000s, GT4s on tight auto-x type technical tracks like Sonoma (capable of 1:45 lap time stock an extremely fast time for such a technical track). It is extremely easy to drive, nothing unsettles it and it loves being pushed hard, where the steering feel really livens up more as you load it through the corners. It makes sense that with the addition of the Magneride on the PP2, that the lap times improved so much. Street car wise, the E9x M3 is better. The Magneride can be still be rough and as others mentioned, Mustang interior quality isn't great (but the tech is quite good/functional). M3 is much nicer car to be in daily. Also on the street, the M3 has much better ground clearance, has better steering feel, and is easier to navigate on narrower roads. Overall I think Ford did a great job with the GTPP2 and for change, an American car has awesome looks. It's an unbelievable value and it makes sense why is world's best selling sports coupe. |
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11-25-2018, 02:17 PM | #104 | |
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I bought a new 2018 GT Mustang with PP1 and 10-sp back in April, $7,000 below msrp light years ahead of 2016 i test drove. |
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11-25-2018, 03:20 PM | #105 |
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I want the R... I'll wait until it's around 40k and add it to my e90 m3.... I've been drooling over those lately. The reviews of how raw they feel and drive reminds me of my recently sold lotus Elise (but v8 engine of course lol). So for me R (poor man's gt3) and next then in some time the real GT3 lol
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The trans becomes more aggressive the harder i drive, some late braking corners it banged 4 downshifts, lots of engine braking at 7000 rpm this will save brakes on a track like NCM. By the end of the river run it was shifting as quick and hard like my m5 SMG |
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11-25-2018, 04:45 PM | #107 |
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Take it out of sport mode and it will keep rpms at 2000 rpm and deliver 26 mpg
Life time is 21 mpg. Yet it downshifts so quickly and smooth feels like a 100 lbft more torque than 2016 gt. Throttle response makes 2016 feel like a 4cylinder |
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11-25-2018, 04:54 PM | #108 |
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The trans in "D" mode does not feel busy at all ,one does not feel down shifts or upshifts, i suspect due to very accurate rev matching.
Car responds with immediate acceleration, never wasting time hunting for gears. One can tell computing power in 2018 trancends my 2006 m5 |
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11-25-2018, 06:01 PM | #109 |
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I'm a DCT fan and new torque converters are also good but 10 speeds is just too many when you want to shift your own. I had a ZF8 in old M235i and it was a phenomenal transmission except even that was too many gears. Now if you want to drive in full auto that's different but that's no fun IMO.
I like the new Mustang, the GT350, recent Camaro SS 1LE, but I think the 7 speed DCT is the sweet spot. |
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11-25-2018, 08:34 PM | #110 | |
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The narrow gaps in gears means shifts do not upset tire adhesion when at the limit driving There is no comparison to any BMW auto trans when in sport mode, closest would be SMG in s5 |
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