1/4 Mile Times on a VF620 or ESS 625

[Hollywood Hogan]

Hi folks,

What sort of 1/4 mile times should I expect on my VF620 E93? It's a DCT with the GTS software. The car also has I haven't had time to take it to the drag strip yet. I know someone's bound to say it depends on track prep, temp, etc. But in ideal conditions should I expect mid 11s? Is that a reasonable expectation?


Car Info:
VF620
GTS DCT software
Turner test pipes
MPE exhaust
Michelin PSS

[Someone?]

Yup.

[GreeKon]

I'd say more like high 11's to low 12's. With a professional driver you MIGHT get into the low-mid 11's.

[pbonsalb]

Or drag radials.

[IMG]

Originally Posted by Hollywood Hogan

Hi folks,

What sort of 1/4 mile times should I expect on my VF620 E93? It's a DCT with the GTS software. The car also has I haven't had time to take it to the drag strip yet. I know someone's bound to say it depends on track prep, temp, etc. But in ideal conditions should I expect mid 11s? Is that a reasonable expectation?


Car Info:
VF620
GTS DCT software
Turner test pipes
MPE exhaust
Michelin PSS

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E9X M3's Supercharged

10.65 @ 131.79 MPH - 1.72 60' - 1SICKM / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT 625 / 93/100 mix octane / 150 lbs. Weight Reduction /Nitto DR's / DA -1548'
10.69 @ 129.38 MPH - 1.63 60' - Mike@VAC, (Klevis@VAC - Driver) / E92 M3 DCT / VF620 SC / 93 Octane / MT ET DR's / DA -1300'
10.81 @ 135.12 MPH - 1.80 60' - DLSJ5/E92 M3 DCT/ESS VT750 SC / 96 octane / BFG / MDM / DA - +270'
10.84 @ 131.60 MPH - 1.82 60' - M33 / E92 M3 DCT/ ESS VT650 SC / 93 octane/ R888 / MDM / DA -1548'
10.87 @ 131.40 MPH - 1.87 60' - Mikewads / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT600 - 100 shot / 93/100 Mix / MT ET DR's / DA +147'
10.91 @ 129.21 MPH - 1.73 60' - Smokeyob / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT625/ Akrapovic Evolution / 93 Oct / MT ET DR's / DA -755'
11.00 @ 129.23 MPH - 1.84 60' - EAS (Mr. 5 driver) /E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT625 / Akra Exhaust/ 98 Oct / ~175 lbs. Weight Reduction / Hoosier DR's / DA +415'
11.20 @ 127.30 MPH - 1.90 60' - M&M / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT625 / Raised Rev Limiter / WM / MT ET DR's / DA +4500'
11.24 @ 127.55 MPH - 1.87 60' - Sal@Autocouture / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT650 / 93 octane / Nitto NT05 / DA +800'
11.29 @ 126.70 MPH - 1.84 60' - akh23456 / E90 M3 DCT /AA Stage 2 / 93 Octane / WM / Street tires / DA -1600'
11.30 @ 129.34 MPH - 1.97 60' - DLSJ5 / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT625 / 95 Octane / WM / Nitto DR's / DA +1300'
11.41 @ 131.67 MPH - 2.06 60' - DLSJ5 / E92 M3 DCT / Gintani Stage 2 / MS109/ WM / BFG DR's / DA +1166'
11.45 @ 131.63 MPH - 1.99 60' - Evolve - Lost Marine / DCT E92 M3 / Evolve E625 SC / 93 Octane/Catless / R888's / DA -500
11.61 @ 123.17 MPH - 1.83 60' - Smokeyob / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT600 / Akrapovic Evolution / 93 Oct/ Pilot Super Sport / DA +1000'??
11.68 @ 122.44 MPH - 1.87 60' - 1SICKM / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT 535 / 93 octane / Street tires / DA -1600'
11.71 @ 132.26 MPH - 2.14 60' - ERM324 / E92M3 DCT / ESS VT625 / 100 octane / Nitto DR's / DA -700'
11.94 @ 118.66 MPH - 1.93 60' - prodigymb / E92 M3 6-MT / ESS VT600 / 93 octane / DR's / DA -1100'

E9X M3's Supercharged in order of trap speed

10.81 @ 135.12 MPH - 1.80 60' - DLSJ5/E92 M3 DCT/ESS VT750 SC / 96 octane / BFG / MDM ON / DA - +270'
11.71 @ 132.26 MPH - 2.14 60' - ERM324 / E92M3 DCT / ESS VT625 / 100 octane / Nitto DR's / DA -700'
10.85 @ 132.10 MPH - 1.83 60' - M33 / E92 M3 DCT/ ESS VT650 SC / 93 octane/ R888 / DA -1548'
10.65 @ 131.79 MPH - 1.72 60' - 1SICKM / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT 625 / 93/100 mix octane / 150 lbs. Weight Reduction /Nitto DR's / DA -1548'
11.41 @ 131.67 MPH - 2.06 60' - DLSJ5 / E92 M3 DCT / Gintani Stage 2 / MS109/ WM / BFG DR's / DA +1166'
11.45 @ 131.63 MPH - 1.99 60' - Evolve - Lost Marine / DCT E92 M3 / Evolve E625 SC / 93 Octane/Catless / R888's / DA -500
10.87 @ 131.40 MPH - 1.87 60' - Mikewads / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT600 - 100 shot / 93/100 Mix / MT ET DR's / DA +147'
11.07 @ 130.40 MPH - 1.84 60' - EAS (Mr. 5 driver) /E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT625 / Akra Exhaust/ 98 Oc / ~175 lbs. Weight Reduction / Hoosier DR's / DA +415'
10.69 @ 129.38 MPH - 1.63 60' - Mike@VAC, (Klevis@VAC - Driver) / E92 M3 DCT / VF620 SC / 93 Octane / MT ET DR's / DA -1300'
11.30 @ 129.34 MPH - 1.97 60' - DLSJ5 / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT625 / 95 Octane / WM / Nitto DR's / DA +1300'
10.91 @ 129.21 MPH - 1.73 60' - Smokeyob / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT625/ Akrapovic Evolution / 93 Oct / MT ET DR's / DA -755'
11.24 @ 127.55 MPH - 1.87 60' - Sal@Autocouture / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT650 / 93 octane / Nitto NT05 / DA +800'
11.20 @ 127.30 MPH - 1.90 60' - M&M / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT625 / Raised Rev Limiter / WM / MT ET DR's / DA +4500'
11.29 @ 126.70 MPH - 1.84 60' - akh23456 / E90 M3 DCT /AA Stage 2 / 93 Octane / WM / Street tires / DA -1600'
11.61 @ 123.17 MPH - 1.83 60' - Smokeyob / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT600 / Akrapovic Evolution / 93 Oct/ Pilot Super Sport / DA +1000'??
11.68 @ 122.44 MPH - 1.87 60' - 1SICKM / E92 M3 DCT / ESS VT 535 / 93 octane / Street tires / DA -1600'
11.94 @ 118.66 MPH - 1.93 60' - prodigymb / E92 M3 6-MT / ESS VT600 / 93 octane / DR's / DA -1100'

[Someone?]

Originally Posted by GreeKon

I'd say more like high 11's to low 12's. With a professional driver you MIGHT get into the low-mid 11's.

Say What? My dam near stock car (stage 1 tune, dinan intake/pulley) did 12.4 on 265 PS2 in MDM mode on a shit track, im adding Akra/stage 2 tune next weekend and i bet the car will go into the high 12.20's on 275 PSS and low 12's on drag radials.

[Sirius Black]

Traction with the PSS's will be your biggest hurdle. Best I've managed on streets was a 12.11@122. My R888's just arrived, hoping to crack into the mid 11's with a 6sp man when those are mounted.

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by ibmike

Say What? My dam near stock car (stage 1 tune, dinan intake/pulley) did 12.4 on 265 PS2 in MDM mode on a shit track, im adding Akra/stage 2 tune next weekend and i bet the car will go into the high 12.20's on 275 PSS and low 12's on drag radials.

haha it's all about getting off the line! traction is the biggest issue. and if you aren't hooking up, a S/C M3 will lose to a N/A M3.

And it's happened before with a good driver vs a shitty driver. Our very own DLSJ5 pulled an 11.88 @ 118 mph in his then exhaust + tune M3. He ran again a Gintani Stg 2 S/C M3 owned by a banned member who runs another forum and DLSJ5 won despite being down 10mph on the trap. There's a vid of it too

[e92livin]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

haha it's all about getting off the line! traction is the biggest issue. and if you aren't hooking up, a S/C M3 will lose to a N/A M3.

And it's happened before with a good driver vs a shitty driver. Our very own DLSJ5 pulled an 11.88 @ 118 mph in his then exhaust + tune M3. He ran again a Gintani Stg 2 S/C M3 owned by a banned member who runs another forum and DLSJ5 won despite being down 10mph on the trap. There's a vid of it too

11.8 with a FBO M3 is seriously impressive, and clearly shows who the better driver was. I no for damn sure a FBO DCT M3 will not beat my M3 dig or roll.. Who had a better 60' on that pass?

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by e92livin

11.8 with a FBO M3 is seriously impressive, and clearly shows who the better driver was. I no for damn sure a FBO DCT M3 will not beat my M3 dig or roll.. Who had a better 60' on that pass?

Not sure but DLSJ5 could have the slip. He did show me the vid as well from the viewpoint of someone in the stands. It was at Sacramento before the timing light change and even Drew will admit the trap there were higher than what would happen today.

It's all about traction off the line, which is difficult with an M3, let alone one that had an extra 200+ HP. But I agree that no FBO M3 - even one that hooks well - should be able to build a large enough gap that you or I couldn't overcome in a 1/4 mile race. In this case, the M3 Gintani S/C driver was just poor. There is also a vid that same day of him attemping a burnout

[e92livin]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Not sure but DLSJ5 could have the slip. He did show me the vid as well from the viewpoint of someone in the stands. It was at Sacramento before the timing light change and even Drew will admit the trap there were higher than what would happen today.

It's all about traction off the line, which is difficult with an M3, let alone one that had an extra 200+ HP. But I agree that no FBO M3 - even one that hooks well - should be able to build a large enough gap that you or I couldn't overcome in a 1/4 mile race. In this case, the M3 Gintani S/C driver was just poor. There is also a vid that same day of him attemping a burnout

I guess the tires weren't Sticky enough ... how ironic.

[Hollywood Hogan]

Thanks fellas. Guess I'll shoot for 11's with mid 11's in mind. I have tons of tread left on the PSS's so I'm not in too much of a hurry to swap out the tires just yet.

[Someone?]

Originally Posted by Hollywood Hogan

Thanks fellas. Guess I'll shoot for 11's with mid 11's in mind. I have tons of tread left on the PSS's so I'm not in too much of a hurry to swap out the tires just yet.

For about $1200 you can get a rear set of lite weight rims and Nitto 555r, thats what im going to do, you should to.
You got that bad ass ride and if you dont have some stickier tires youll probably look silly at the track.
If you look at those^ times ALL the fast runs where with sticky drag radials.
And they will probably be worth over half that money 3 years from now.

[US///M3]

Originally Posted by e92livin

I guess the tires weren't Sticky enough ... how ironic.

[SYZ]

You will have plenty of traction on the PSS2 tires and your E93 on a prepped track. Most guys commenting have E92's and wouldn't know.

keep launch control around 4K-4500k and it should go nicely. you might need to have the GTS software recoded to adjust launch control to 4500 though. I believe its preset at 3500 with 500+/- adjustment.

[Verify]

PSS will do "OK" but I would wager using LC will just spin them to oblivion. As others have said, investing in decent tires makes the difference.

Here's how the days will pan out:
Day 1- XXX time on PSS "damn, I wonder what sticky tires would do"
Day 2- XXX time on PSS "damn, maybe I should get better tires, I wonder what the car can really do"
Day 3- XXX time on Nitto/R888/AD08 "damn, I should have bought these sooner"

[datninja]

The biggest disappointment is it being 90 degrees, on 20in hankook Ventus V12's. Those were really shitty times.

[Orange fever]

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