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Even then, the original schedule for the weekend typically has 3 or 4 of the sessions for the weekend combined for DE3/4, but it roughly translates to 6 or 7 combined sessions after the delays etc. I'm really trying to get to TT, I'm between 2-6 seconds off the #1 guy in TT3 depending on the track, so won't be competing for any podiums, but most of my friends that I've met through the track are TT3 guys and being out on the track with them would be enjoyable. Can't wait to get off of this stock suspension and NT01s and start trying to be genuinely competitive. The only way that I've found that I can get a clean lap is to grid #1 and go pretty slow on the out lap. In theory, this allows all the cars to get off of grid and out onto the track and get squished up. This usually nets me 1 or 2 clean laps. This practice gets thrown way out of whack when they send us out on a green flag and usually I just switch my focus to passing cars off line and getting practice maintaining speed off of the ideal line. Last edited by WhiteM3EMC; 06-25-2020 at 09:00 AM.. |
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But in all seriousness, that would be awesome. I will likely be living in Virginia at that time (3 hours from VIR ) but the trip to Road Atlanta is still roughly the same length from VA as it is for me now, so that's exciting. I was combing through some of the 2019 TT results for various regions, and it seems like on average, TT3 in SE is the only region that has enough competitors to even qualify for contingency prizes. So, with that in mind, I'll certainly be making the trek (when possible) down to the SE events to try to compete for some tires. |
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If you're not getting clean laps, that means you aren't in the right grid spot, or there are people behind you that need to move further up front. Ideally, there should be very little passing because the guy in front of you is a tad faster, and the guy behind you is a tad slower. I say just do it anyway. Being behind faster cars (a rabbit) will help push you to be a little faster. And yes, switch to a faster tire if it won't throw you out of TT3 -- the Proxes RR is a good compromise.
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The RRs are my next tire, which will be a step up from the NT01s, and the 295s on an 18 inch wheel are criminally cheap (like 245 a tire or something). Problem here is that I'm SLIGHTLY rubbing on my 275 NT01s, so I definitely can't run the 295 RRs on my stock suspension. These NT01s are wearing very well, so I may be able to keep them around until its time for the MCS dampers and 295 RRs. 295s are about 100 bucks cheaper per tire than 275, and there's a dead zone in the Toyo contingency program between like 265 and 295 I think. So I'd have no chance to score some Toyo bucks if I was on a 275. I love being behind faster cars because 9/10 times I'm able to see something that they're doing differently in this or that turn, and it gives me another option to try. When I ran my Charger at the track, I actually learned a better line through the back half of Roebling Road by following a Miata. My car probably weighed twice as much with 3x the horsepower, but, applying some of the principles he was executing shaved off a ton of time on my laps. EDIT: Seems Amazon has 275/35R18 Toyo RRs for 287 a piece, which is only 40 bucks more per tire than the 295s. Very interesting. Don't know if my stock suspension could make the most out of that much more grip, though. Last edited by WhiteM3EMC; 06-25-2020 at 10:01 AM.. |
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Thinking about picking up a second set of wheels for track days.
As far as tires: Seems NT01 is a nearly unanimous suggestion - I've also seen hankook RS4 mentioned. Anything else in that realm worth a look? The nankang AR1? Falkens? |
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I vote RS4 first. You're probably not going to be comfortable with the slip angle NT01's operate at this soon. RS4 last longer and aren't that much slower either. Remember that once you go to a faster tire, you'll probably never go back to a slower tire even if it lasts longer.
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Agreed with Bartledoo. I went from PSS => RE71R => RS4 => NT01 => AR-1 => RR next.
Once I tried RE71R, I could not imagine going back, and RS4 was just terrible. NT01 felt slower than RE71R and less feedback, but was o.k. AR-1 finally took a step forward. RR might be a step back in pace. Also agree about TT & rabbits. I shocked myself trying to keep up with my friend in TT, when he was in a 911 GT3, was right in front of me at grid, but he's 1-2 seconds faster. Lap 2 I blew my prior PB away by 3 seconds. Very motivating. It actually helped me too, when I saw him go a bit slower mid-corner than I, it helped me unconsciously stop applying throttle too early, and it made me faster overall in the earlier sections of the lap. |
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RS4 should be fine and will be usable in the wet, plus it's durable. NT01 is a faster tire but is hopeless with any standing water.
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COVID definitely messed up some of my plans this year but I’ll be joining ya in TT at some point soon!
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They're fine for DD. Can't think of a better tire to drive around on and beat up on at the track, all while having good life.
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Yeah nuts, don’t recall what policy it was, but because it was an “Untimed driver school” it was covered.
But yeah. Hagerty would be my go-to for a policy if I get one
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I'm just gonna continue trying not to crash into anything too hard...and not die.
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That case seems to be the exception moreso than the standard.
I don't really consider TT any less safe than HPDE. If anything, I consider it safer because I know it's a certain caliber of person. Anyone who is serious about racing is going to run a wheel-to-wheel class.
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Mid Atlantic region was dead for TT3 last year except for Hyperfest and the Great Lakes combined event. However our first event this year (this past weekend) we had 5 saturday and 7 sunday! Which are perfect for contingencies
Also if you're going to Toyo, they are paying out 3rd place for 7 starters this year, with the same payout as 2nd place! They didn't do this last year I don't believe
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