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      06-20-2019, 02:48 PM   #45
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sorry for ur loss

how about a mint e92?
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      06-20-2019, 02:49 PM   #46
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Byroncheung,

It might be the perfect time to get into an F80. Supposedly better gas mileage, along with room for adults in the back. F80s under 30K miles appear to be going for around $45,000. You already had years of enjoyment with the beast. I want to keep my baby forever as well, but if she meets an unfortunate fate, I would switch platforms.
But then he'll have an F80... no one wants that!!
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      06-21-2019, 09:06 AM   #47
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People talk about turning DSC off like the car becomes and unpredictable and uncontrollable, its not the case at all. As Scharbag said on track with DSC fully off the E9x is progressive and communicative. DSC prevents hamfisted inputs upsetting the cars attitude, and will attempt to correct it with brakes and throttle modulation. Its quite possible in this DSC would of made no difference at all, because if the car is hydroplaning no amount electronic aids can save you.

The real lesson here is drive to the conditions, regardless of whether you have traction control or not.

OP - Sorry about your car, I know that stretch of road well!

Bingo. Even with DSC fully engaged you cannot defy the laws of physics. You should always drive defensively and assume the system can't save you.
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      06-21-2019, 02:09 PM   #48
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DSC isn't some kind of magical failsafe, and while we don't know if it's good enough to have helped recover after a loss of control on a rainy freeway, we do know that the system was set to not even try, so...it's not as though those of us acknowledging the link between the off button and the accident are just grasping at straws out in left field here.
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      06-21-2019, 02:31 PM   #49
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I didn't read the outcome but I can 10000% tell you that car is totalled. Start looking at replacements asap so you can get the best price possible.
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      06-21-2019, 02:35 PM   #50
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This has very little to do with BMW, same thing happened to me, 360 degree spin getting on the Garden State parkway with my 1980 BMW 320i when I was 17! I shit my pants but recovered like in the movies.

Id expect the same outcome with any RWD vehicle whose engine sits up front.

byroncheung, I'm sorry you experienced this, I hope with insurance and with whatever kind a vehicle you choose going forward you'll be able to have the same degree of passion and excitement you had for you beloved M3.
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      06-21-2019, 04:19 PM   #51
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Sorry to hear op. This story makes me think twice driving around with mdm all the time like I do even when there's rain simply because I like the stiffer settings I have it on. Hope you find the fun replacement soon.
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      06-21-2019, 04:22 PM   #52
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yep, confirmed total loss...

feel sad because these car are truly special, and it was my first proper car and i put in time & energy to maintain and mod it...

but guess all good things must end... need to start to look at some caymans...

i have learnt so much from this forum over the years. what's the equivalent p-car forum?
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      06-21-2019, 04:30 PM   #53
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yep, confirmed total loss...

feel sad because these car are truly special, and it was my first proper car and i put in time & energy to maintain and mod it...

but guess all good things must end... need to start to look at some caymans...

i have learnt so much from this forum over the years. what's the equivalent p-car forum?

Rennlist is pretty good.
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      06-21-2019, 04:50 PM   #54
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Sucks about the car, but luckily you are still here to chat about it. As far as short term lease, long term rental go; I would keep checking swapalease.com for a potential daily until you can find another M....
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      06-21-2019, 05:06 PM   #55
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      06-21-2019, 08:56 PM   #56
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Per OP - Euro MDM not MDM.
The Euro MDM is a lot more aggressive than the US OEM MDM.

Here is Euro MDM, in the rain at NYST, I still maintain not for commuting duties. You can see the traction control light goes on, but it also allows quit a bit of tail swing out before it tries to help. Once I started to go to trackdays, I lost any motivations to be hero on the street.
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