dealer playing hardball, advice

chuckvic · 04-27-2009, 04:27 PM

So found a nice 2009 M3 with DCT, options I want and a few extra options I could live without for $72500.
Dealer basically wants full price, and low ball offer of $19000 on my 2006
330i. That was initial offer, second offer with sales manager maybe an extra grand for my car and maybe $1000 off M3. This is with 2.9% for 5 years.

sales tells me M3's are hot and selling but forgets about the left over 2008 cab for $66000, about $13000 off MSRP. (nice one for anyone looking for 6Spd MT, black, grey interior).

Advice please, ditch the dealer, make my own hard ball offer or wait her out.

chuck

ChitownM3 · 04-27-2009, 04:30 PM

My advice is nothing. If they are willing to deal on the car they will call you in the next couple of days. Don't make an offer, don't do anything.

McLuVan · 04-27-2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChitownM3

My advice is nothing. If they are willing to deal on the car they will call you in the next couple of days. Don't make an offer, don't do anything.

+1
I did that
dealer called me a week later
offered me invoice + $0

McLuVan · 04-27-2009, 04:44 PM

btw this is the wrong section

mods might want to moveeeeeee thissss
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4u3 · 04-27-2009, 05:01 PM

Bought mine 500 over invoice 09 E92 in december. On the east coast Ms are not selling any better now, invoice or 500 over no more.

monsta · 04-27-2009, 05:24 PM

Do Not Pay Over Invoice!!!! not even $500

FStop7 · 04-27-2009, 05:26 PM

You should go to a different dealer, they're crazy.

DaFool · 04-27-2009, 05:45 PM

Different dealer. Tony Sakkis @ Momentum SW in Houston will get you a MUCH better deal.

dogears · 04-27-2009, 05:52 PM

Ditch the dealer. This is BS. Or go there and offer $300 over invoice. Bring a copy of the BMW wholesale invoice prices available in the sticky above. Make sure to tell them you prefer to stay local, but you will shop the deal unless they don't insult you and show you that they are a serious seller. Make sure to tell them that you have plenty of BMW club friends who got near invoice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckvic

So found a nice 2009 M3 with DCT, options I want and a few extra options I could live without for $72500.
Dealer basically wants full price, and low ball offer of $19000 on my 2006
330i. That was initial offer, second offer with sales manager maybe an extra grand for my car and maybe $1000 off M3. This is with 2.9% for 5 years.

sales tells me M3's are hot and selling but forgets about the left over 2008 cab for $66000, about $13000 off MSRP. (nice one for anyone looking for 6Spd MT, black, grey interior).

Advice please, ditch the dealer, make my own hard ball offer or wait her out.

chuck

schadenfreude · 04-27-2009, 05:56 PM

Call and get a better quote from a competing dealer. Give your first dealer a "beat this or lose the sale" call. My initial dealer wouldn't budge, but the second did when I told him I'd fly to Cali and love my drive back on the Pacific Coastal Highway with a cheaper M3. (He didn't match Cali prices, but close enough for me)

Cab5er · 04-27-2009, 05:58 PM

Fvck em. Sell the car on your own and give your business to someone else.

positiveions · 04-27-2009, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monsta

Do Not Pay Over Invoice!!!! not even $500

+1. Listen to Monsta. F these guys. They are desperate.

AZ-BMW · 04-27-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckvic

So found a nice 2009 M3 with DCT, options I want and a few extra options I could live without for $72500.
Dealer basically wants full price, and low ball offer of $19000 on my 2006
330i. That was initial offer, second offer with sales manager maybe an extra grand for my car and maybe $1000 off M3. This is with 2.9% for 5 years.

sales tells me M3's are hot and selling but forgets about the left over 2008 cab for $66000, about $13000 off MSRP. (nice one for anyone looking for 6Spd MT, black, grey interior).

Advice please, ditch the dealer, make my own hard ball offer or wait her out.
chuck

Strongly recommend you contact one of the board sponsors, like Adrian Avila at adriansbmw@gmail.com. Sell your 330i to CarMax or a local sale, take delivery of the M3 at the Performance Center in Spartanburg, SC, enjoy a nice leisure drive back to TX

Note: Overall you will probably get a better deal than continuing to screw around with your local CA

akssriva · 04-27-2009, 09:25 PM

If the car is on the lot then invoice is all you should offer. If he bites, then but it and sell the 330i to a private party. A good deal on the M3 is useless if he rips you off on the trade-in.

duk · 04-28-2009, 01:54 AM

my advice is go to another dealer, economy is in a rut, no dealer should be charging anything near msrp these days

Samifumi · 04-28-2009, 06:38 AM

Was this a rhetorical question?

niqui · 04-28-2009, 08:09 AM

take ur cash elsewhere.

jesm · 04-28-2009, 09:40 AM

For some reason Texas(Houston/Austin mainly) dealers are very difficult to negotiate with....we do not get the awesome deals that people list here(specially the ones from California....)

DaFool · 04-28-2009, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesm

For some reason Texas(Houston/Austin mainly) dealers are very difficult to negotiate with....we do not get the awesome deals that people list here(specially the ones from California....)

I thought this was true. Apparently, I was wrong. I posted on Bimmerfest, but probably didn't here, that I got my 09 M3 Coupe below invoice, local, in Houston. I posted the CA's name earlier in the thread. Suffice to say, $500 over invoice for an ordered 09 M3 is easily doable IN HOUSTON. I'm pretty sure that's as good a deal as any in California.

Feel free to PM for details, advice, CA name and #, and my name if you want to give it to him.

So, all you Houston/Texas people who think you have to go to California, it's a nice road trip, but you don't have to.

Swinn · 04-28-2009, 07:44 PM

Dang DaFool!!! I wished I had gotten this info 2 months ago. I had a very tough time in Houston. I had to order one from Austin to get a decent deal and hopefully I will be able to pick it up next week.

fabsulos21 · 04-28-2009, 09:18 PM

Is it cheaper if you decide to take delivery at the Performance Center in South Carolina?

Ca$hOnly · 04-28-2009, 09:42 PM

I always laugh at threads like this. "Dealer playing hardball" LOL, kind of an oxymoron in the current economic environment.

Please don't go back to this dealer. They had their chance. Buy from someone who is willing to treat you like a customer...not a sucker. There are plenty out there. Just do a little research.

04-27-2009, 04:27 PM	#1
chuckvic Private First Class 22 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 DCT Coupe Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: el paso iTrader: (0)	dealer playing hardball, advice So found a nice 2009 M3 with DCT, options I want and a few extra options I could live without for $72500. Dealer basically wants full price, and low ball offer of $19000 on my 2006 330i. That was initial offer, second offer with sales manager maybe an extra grand for my car and maybe $1000 off M3. This is with 2.9% for 5 years. sales tells me M3's are hot and selling but forgets about the left over 2008 cab for $66000, about $13000 off MSRP. (nice one for anyone looking for 6Spd MT, black, grey interior). Advice please, ditch the dealer, make my own hard ball offer or wait her out. chuck
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04-27-2009, 04:30 PM	#2
ChitownM3 Lieutenant 28 Rep 487 Posts Drives: 2001 SS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Burbs of Chicago iTrader: (0)	My advice is nothing. If they are willing to deal on the car they will call you in the next couple of days. Don't make an offer, don't do anything.
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McLuVan Lieutenant General 304 Rep 13,114 Posts Drives: ///M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Socal~818~ iTrader: (1)	btw this is the wrong section mods might want to moveeeeeee thissss -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> __________________
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04-27-2009, 05:01 PM	#5
4u3 Private First Class 20 Rep 105 Posts Drives: 09 E92 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pasadena MD iTrader: (0)	Bought mine 500 over invoice 09 E92 in december. On the east coast Ms are not selling any better now, invoice or 500 over no more.
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04-27-2009, 05:24 PM	#6
monsta Brigadier General 218 Rep 3,592 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bergen County, NJ/Y.O, NY iTrader: (2)	Do Not Pay Over Invoice!!!! not even $500 __________________ '08 E92 M3 6MT \| IB \| FR \| RAC RG63's \| VRS Ti Exhaust \| Fabspeed HFC & Xpipe '09 X5 35d SG/SB '11 X3 28i AW/CN/FW (wife's car
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04-27-2009, 05:26 PM	#7
FStop7 I like cars 329 Rep 5,052 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newbury Park, CA iTrader: (3)	You should go to a different dealer, they're crazy. __________________ My photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/racelap/
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04-27-2009, 05:45 PM	#8
DaFool Private 0 Rep 86 Posts Drives: 09 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0)	Different dealer. Tony Sakkis @ Momentum SW in Houston will get you a MUCH better deal.
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04-27-2009, 05:56 PM	#10
schadenfreude Lieutenant 8 Rep 426 Posts Drives: '09 E90 M-DCT M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 E90 M3 [0.00]	Call and get a better quote from a competing dealer. Give your first dealer a "beat this or lose the sale" call. My initial dealer wouldn't budge, but the second did when I told him I'd fly to Cali and love my drive back on the Pacific Coastal Highway with a cheaper M3. (He didn't match Cali prices, but close enough for me) __________________ AiB LEDs///MS Filter///Hardwired V1///VentureShield///F1 Pinnacle 35%///IND Reflectors///BMW Performance Grills
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04-27-2009, 05:58 PM	#11
Cab5er Colonel 80 Rep 2,339 Posts Drives: 09 E90 M3 (Sold) 13 A1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fremont, Hainan iTrader: (22)	Fvck em. Sell the car on your own and give your business to someone else. __________________ E90 ///M3/ AW/ Fox Red
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04-27-2009, 09:25 PM	#14
akssriva Private First Class 17 Rep 130 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 (E90) Join Date: May 2008 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	If the car is on the lot then invoice is all you should offer. If he bites, then but it and sell the 330i to a private party. A good deal on the M3 is useless if he rips you off on the trade-in. __________________ 2009 M3 E90, Jerez Black, Red Nov leather, Premium Pkg, Tech Pkg, DCT, 19" Wheels and loads of attitude
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04-28-2009, 01:54 AM	#15
duk ///M 158 Rep 3,195 Posts Drives: 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (0)	my advice is go to another dealer, economy is in a rut, no dealer should be charging anything near msrp these days __________________ 2011.5 AW/FR E92 M3 6MT
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04-28-2009, 06:38 AM	#16
Samifumi Private First Class 6 Rep 150 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nederland, Texas iTrader: (0)	Was this a rhetorical question? Last edited by Samifumi; 04-28-2009 at 06:56 AM..
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04-28-2009, 08:09 AM	#17
niqui Brigadier General 127 Rep 3,110 Posts Drives: Jet Black E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (7)	take ur cash elsewhere.
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04-28-2009, 09:40 AM	#18
jesm Second Lieutenant 208 Rep 236 Posts Drives: 911S 2018 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Houston iTrader: (11)	Hardball For some reason Texas(Houston/Austin mainly) dealers are very difficult to negotiate with....we do not get the awesome deals that people list here(specially the ones from California....)
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04-28-2009, 07:44 PM	#20
Swinn New Member 2 Rep 16 Posts Drives: 2009 E90 M3, 2016 X5M Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston iTrader: (0)	Dang DaFool!!! I wished I had gotten this info 2 months ago. I had a very tough time in Houston. I had to order one from Austin to get a decent deal and hopefully I will be able to pick it up next week.
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04-28-2009, 09:18 PM	#21
fabsulos21 Enlisted Member 1 Rep 49 Posts Drives: Mercedes C63 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Woodsburgh, Long Island iTrader: (0)	Is it cheaper if you decide to take delivery at the Performance Center in South Carolina?
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04-28-2009, 09:42 PM	#22
Ca$hOnly Major 47 Rep 1,073 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In ur fridge, eatin ur foodz iTrader: (5)	I always laugh at threads like this. "Dealer playing hardball" LOL, kind of an oxymoron in the current economic environment. Please don't go back to this dealer. They had their chance. Buy from someone who is willing to treat you like a customer...not a sucker. There are plenty out there. Just do a little research. __________________
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