"DSC off" option missing?

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by e92ben

This is very odd. But you never know. My e60 m5 (six speed manual) had to get coded to fully disable the traction control.

They were all like that from the factory, but they required a full software update to allow DSC Off since there wasn't even an option in coding to allow it on the older software.

[Roulie]

DSC off is working on my car now is well, indeed a software issue.

Time to scare the neighbors : )

[S3R3N1TY]

Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

DSC OFF was removed from the M-Drive settings sometime in 2012. Most cars before that will have it, and it can be re-enabled with coding.

Is this possibly only for US Spec cars? I have a Canadian 2013 E92 (May 2013 Build) and I'm able to turn off the DSC through the M-Drive menu as well as holding the button down for 3 seconds. The car also has the Competition Pack, so maybe that has something to do with why it can be turned off in the menu.

[Beemdog]

DSC off mode works fine on my 2011.5 car. It can be turned off in the M-drive settings as well. It does issue some warning on the dashboard, though.

I find it humorous that for the past 30 years I've been perfectly able to drive cars of all power levels without traction control and now I find myself thinking twice about turning these nannies off. Like the car is gonna kill me or something. I mean are we getting soft or what? My first car (at 17) was a '70 Dodge Charger R/T with a built 440 Magnum and a pistol grip 4-speed-- and I never wrecked that. Lots of great burn-outs and slides without an issue back then, but now I feel like a rascal doing anything beyond a tire chirp. Gettin' old sux...

[Helmsman]

Originally Posted by Beemdog

DSC off mode works fine on my 2011.5 car. It can be turned off in the M-drive settings as well. It does issue some warning on the dashboard, though.

I find it humorous that for the past 30 years I've been perfectly able to drive cars of all power levels without traction control and now I find myself thinking twice about turning these nannies off. Like the car is gonna kill me or something. I mean are we getting soft or what? My first car (at 17) was a '70 Dodge Charger R/T with a built 440 Magnum and a pistol grip 4-speed-- and I never wrecked that. Lots of great burn-outs and slides without an issue back then, but now I feel like a rascal doing anything beyond a tire chirp. Gettin' old sux...

Im thinking the same, not too many years ago we didnt have ABS, no nothing managed by CPU power and now I think twice before i turn the computers off - yep we are getting soft!

[Helmsman]

Originally Posted by mlhj83

Don't have to mess with coding when there is something fundamentally wrong with your DSC button, DSC button should respond. Visit the dealership.

You Americans have very weird electronics . Different MDM thresholds, disappearing DSC-off setting, MDM being optional etc.

And apparently different EDC sw too, feel almost sorry for you guys!

[///mawana]

Originally Posted by Helmsman

And apparently different EDC sw too, feel almost sorry for you guys!

Yeah, but we do pay less at the pump!

[Helmsman]

Originally Posted by ///mawana

Yeah, but we do pay less at the pump!

Now that one is painfully true! (then again as we can't get anything "less" than 95oct but typically 99oct I guess its OK to pay a bit more...

Cheers

[dparm]

Originally Posted by mlhj83

Don't have to mess with coding when there is something fundamentally wrong with your DSC button, DSC button should respond. Visit the dealership.

You Americans have very weird electronics . Different MDM thresholds, disappearing DSC-off setting, MDM being optional etc.

Wait, you're in the UK and lecturing us on electrics?

[Rupes]

Originally Posted by Beemdog

I find it humorous that for the past 30 years I've been perfectly able to drive cars of all power levels without traction control and now I find myself thinking twice about turning these nannies off. Like the car is gonna kill me or something. I mean are we getting soft or what? My first car (at 17) was a '70 Dodge Charger R/T with a built 440 Magnum and a pistol grip 4-speed-- and I never wrecked that. Lots of great burn-outs and slides without an issue back then, but now I feel like a rascal doing anything beyond a tire chirp. Gettin' old sux...

When you turn off DSC by holding down the button, is it really totally off? I thought it was just less aggressive in preventing wheel spin.

[apecush]

No, it is definitely off.

[Lithiumax]

Originally Posted by meyergru

Correct, but that is a different setting, called "DSC_IN_MDRIVE", which is "nicht_aktiv" in that case. There are also DSC_MENUE, DSC_OFF_CIC, DSC_VARIANTE, DSC_SWITCH and ABSCHALTBARKEIT_DSC.

Matter-of-fact, there is an e-word "SIXT" (not joking). If that is removed from the vehicle order, a later software update would not disable DSC again.

BTW: I would not disable Start/Stop completely, just enable the memory setting: MSA_MEMORY - or better, add "OMSA" to the v.o.. With that, the car will retain the last setting (see SIB 121512), as is the default for newer M cars.

Hi all, this is our inaugural post so hope it has some value to some, as we burnt a fair amount of time trying to get this sorted.

Our tarmac rally development mule 2008 Aus delivered i.e. euro-spec E92 M3 has MDrive and euro MDM however we had no DSC options in MDrive, all other options present. This was unique so after speaking to some top platform tuners without success, we decided to 'go it alone' and set up for NCS coding ourselves. On this platform (2008 CCC) we found in the CAPPL ECU the option of 'DSC' which was set to Nicht_Aktiv but no DSC_IN_MDRIVE option, which may be present in later CIC versions. So setting DSC to Aktiv has brought back DSC and MDM selection in MDrive as well as the ability to turn DSC both off and on. Interestingly we saw there was also options for just 'MDrive' in this module as well as MDrive_ABV which were both set to Nicht_Aktiv. We left these as they were (After all, in Aus we say if it ain't broke, don't fix it). Someone may have some feedback on this but we're just happy we can use MDM now for damp conditions.