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      05-06-2020, 08:21 AM   #23
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Whoa what offset?
+20 effective offset up front. Those pics are ~-3.5 deg. camber.
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      05-06-2020, 01:02 PM   #25
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Side question re these tires.

Has anyone flipped them despite the inside/outside tire designation? The outside gets hammered flat and the inside looks brand new after 4-5 Autoxs. My guess is the sidewalk is not up to the task but thought I’d ask.
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      05-11-2020, 10:42 AM   #28
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Side question re these tires.

Has anyone flipped them despite the inside/outside tire designation? The outside gets hammered flat and the inside looks brand new after 4-5 Autoxs. My guess is the sidewalk is not up to the task but thought I’d ask.
I was planning on flipping mine after 50 runs, but they didn't last that long...
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      05-12-2020, 05:37 PM   #29
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I was planning on flipping mine after 50 runs, but they didn't last that long...
And you aren’t concerned about the inside tire designation? It would be great to get double the life out of them if it works.

I also wondered if the compound is the same across the tire where some tires have stickier compounds for the outside tread.
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And you aren’t concerned about the inside tire designation? It would be great to get double the life out of them if it works.

I also wondered if the compound is the same across the tire where some tires have stickier compounds for the outside tread.
Not directly related to the A052, but I've been flipping numerous r-compound tires for years without any problems. I personally wouldn't worry about it and would say do it, others might disagree. If you're not comfortable with it then don't, but many people do it without issue.
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Not directly related to the A052, but I've been flipping numerous r-compound tires for years without any problems. I personally wouldn't worry about it and would say do it, others might disagree. If you're not comfortable with it then don't, but many people do it without issue.
Agreed, I'm not worried about flipping at all. Especially for Autocross.
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👍🏼, thanks. I’ll give it try. Just seems ridiculous they put “inside” unless it’s for water evac purposes in which I don’t care.
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Check with the manufacturer. Some of these race tires have specific guidelines for proper rotation and flipping.
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Anybody out there tried some of the bigger sizes yet?? Maybe 305's or 315's??
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Anybody out there tried some of the bigger sizes yet?? Maybe 305's or 315's??
Based on how many rub marks I have on the fender liners and fender lips... Good luck with that! Gonna be bending some bodywork to fit anything larger under there.

The 295 A052s on 11's rub:

Inside rear liner/fuel filler
Outside rear fender lip/bumper tab

Front and Rear of front wheel liner
Front Fender Lip

None of it is *bad* but I wouldn't expect to fit anything bigger unless ride heights are pretty high and spring rates are significantly higher than the 550/1100 I'm already running.
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^^ what offset rear wheels?

anyone enounter rubbing or other fitment issues with the 295 on 18x10et25 in rear?
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Based on how many rub marks I have on the fender liners and fender lips... Good luck with that! Gonna be bending some bodywork to fit anything larger under there.

The 295 A052s on 11's rub:

Inside rear liner/fuel filler
Outside rear fender lip/bumper tab

Front and Rear of front wheel liner
Front Fender Lip

None of it is *bad* but I wouldn't expect to fit anything bigger unless ride heights are pretty high and spring rates are significantly higher than the 550/1100 I'm already running.



I would characterize three of those four things as bad to have contact with. It sounds like you're either going to slash the tire open or you're going to cause a fuel leak. Not exactly the situations I want at high speed...or ever.
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^^ what offset rear wheels?

anyone enounter rubbing or other fitment issues with the 295 on 18x10et25 in rear?
No issue with 10s, especially if you're on stock suspension. My 11's are also et25.

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I would characterize three of those four things as bad to have contact with. It sounds like you're either going to slash the tire open or you're going to cause a fuel leak. Not exactly the situations I want at high speed...or ever.
Agreed, the filler neck is more of a bump travel issue than a tire issue though (and I already fixed it). The rest of the rubs are pretty minimal, no risk of cutting up the tire. But I don't think fitting any more tire in those fenderwells is going to happen without permanent modifications.
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👍🏼, thanks. I’ll give it try. Just seems ridiculous they put “inside” unless it’s for water evac purposes in which I don’t care.
Just following up on my own question. I flipped the A052’s and they work just as well with the “inside” designation outside. This gives me at least 30% more life (because I flipped so late in the process).
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Running 18x10.5 e21 with 295 AR1 square.
Very close to shock body and spring perch move over the tire.
-3.5 camber
At my current height no rubbing, but than again my fender liner are all rubbed out. Lol

FYI nankang ar1 295 measure 305 cross section
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Running 18x10.5 e21 with 295 AR1 square.
Very close to shock body and spring perch move over the tire.
-3.5 camber
At my current height no rubbing, but than again my fender liner are all rubbed out. Lol

FYI nankang ar1 295 measure 305 cross section
How close is too close to the shock body? I've got 295/30/18 AR1's on 18x10 et25 and there is about 1/8" clearance.
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The AR1 has a large rim bead.
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I added a 5mm spacer and put a 3" thick block under the tire when I let it down. It compressed the fender well almost a half inch and this is the clearance there is:
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Anyone have any thoughts on running the 295/35/18 A052??
I have an opportunity to scoop up a used staggered set 265/295-35 off a local Porsche GT3 Clubsport for chepppp and wondering if the 295’s would probably be too tall to fit the front. They have two sets available so I could try to do 295/35 square but I have my doubts on fitment. I’ll probably buy the one staggered set and see how they are and report back
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