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      07-13-2013, 08:32 AM   #23
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Does this dct tune work with SC'd cars as well?

I like what I'm hearing about this.
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Let me answer the two questions recently posted:

1) Does it work on SC'd cars?
- Yup! The tune modifies the stock software which controls how the transmission behaves. It really smooths everything out. So today you are running a supercharger on a stock DCT, and this software would only make that DCT better! I'm sure Mr. Benvo could elaborate. I would PM or call him to get a better answer.

2) Can I elaborate on the Servotronic?
- I was confused about what that was too, but the simple answer is, Servotronic affects the resistance of the steering wheel. Without it, the power steering would make the wheel feel light and effortless to turn. When you start getting up at higher speeds, you don't want that lack of resistance as the car would get pretty squirrely. Our cars include software controlled steering resistance, and while it was good before, BPM has modified it to make the steering even more tight as speeds increase. It really gives you a greater sense of stability and control of the car. Since BPM is including it with any Engine tune for a limited time for free, I would highly suggest you look into it if you are interested.

The Engine tune has optimized the engine and power delivery. The car pulls linearly to redline (and noticeably harder than before), you feel more torque at lower RPM (where the car needs it the most), and the exhaust note is appreciably deeper.

The DCT tune has optimized the transmission transitions. Significantly smoother during cold starts, upshifts at all RPMs, and Night & Day differences in downshift speed and smoothness.

The Servotronic tune has tightened up steering to give you higher confidence in your ability to control the car.

All three of these together simply take what was a stellar M3, and transform it into an absolute masterpiece exuding grace at every input.
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Let me answer the two questions recently posted:

1) Does it work on SC'd cars?
- Yup! The tune modifies the stock software which controls how the transmission behaves. It really smooths everything out. So today you are running a supercharger on a stock DCT, and this software would only make that DCT better! I'm sure Mr. Benvo could elaborate. I would PM or call him to get a better answer.

2) Can I elaborate on the Servotronic?
- I was confused about what that was too, but the simple answer is, Servotronic affects the resistance of the steering wheel. Without it, the power steering would make the wheel feel light and effortless to turn. When you start getting up at higher speeds, you don't want that lack of resistance as the car would get pretty squirrely. Our cars include software controlled steering resistance, and while it was good before, BPM has modified it to make the steering even more tight as speeds increase. It really gives you a greater sense of stability and control of the car. Since BPM is including it with any Engine tune for a limited time for free, I would highly suggest you look into it if you are interested.

The Engine tune has optimized the engine and power delivery. The car pulls linearly to redline (and noticeably harder than before), you feel more torque at lower RPM (where the car needs it the most), and the exhaust note is appreciably deeper.

The DCT tune has optimized the transmission transitions. Significantly smoother during cold starts, upshifts at all RPMs, and Night & Day differences in downshift speed and smoothness.

The Servotronic tune has tightened up steering to give you higher confidence in your ability to control the car.

All three of these together simply take what was a stellar M3, and transform it into an absolute masterpiece exuding grace at every input.


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      07-13-2013, 03:17 PM   #26
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All three of these together simply take what was a stellar M3, and transform it into an absolute masterpiece exuding grace at every input.
These reviews are so over the top! I guess I would have to drive one of these cars to be truly convinced. Anyone with a BPM tune in the Valley willing?
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      07-13-2013, 03:26 PM   #27
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that act is such a joke. honestly. you need to go to court for that and when you go to court everyone loses, even when you win.
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      07-13-2013, 03:37 PM   #28
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These reviews are so over the top! I guess I would have to drive one of these cars to be truly convinced. Anyone with a BPM tune in the Valley willing?
Too many of these threads pop up for it to be fake if that's what you're trying to get at. Why don't you just buy it and see for yourself
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Jeez, DCT rocks out of the box for me...I did come from SMG. I wish I had this tune for SMG back then, talk about jerky and brutal shifts.
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yup DCT IS AWESOME
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      07-13-2013, 04:02 PM   #31
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Too many of these threads pop up for it to be fake if that's what you're trying to get at. Why don't you just buy it and see for yourself
I'm not saying it's fake at all. . Maybe it's simply that the personality types are similar of these owners?
I mean, I supercharged my car and even I wasn't like, "OMGWTFBBQ INSANE POWA!" Was it, and is it faster? Hell yes, but I guess I'm more matter-of-fact and don't like to embellish things.
I'd still love to go for a ride/drive a BPM tuned car to experience what it's all about.
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      07-13-2013, 04:22 PM   #32
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Jeez, DCT rocks out of the box for me...I did come from SMG. I wish I had this tune for SMG back then, talk about jerky and brutal shifts.
I drive an SMG M5 daily... And I can tell you the second I got it that transmission controller was flashed .
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      07-13-2013, 04:24 PM   #33
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I am FULLY BPM Tuned. Mike, you're awesome. Car doesn't feel sluggish anymore down low. Torque management has significantly been improved and the car just feels more alive. Thank you so much!
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      07-13-2013, 04:32 PM   #34
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Is it worth doing all three tunes without any exhaust upgrades? It seems like the answer would be yes! I really do not want to change exhaust for a while but the tunes seem worth the money right away. I only had a tune on my RS4, nothing else was worth the money. So many more options available on the M. I remember researching tunes and exhausts only to learn that it will blow the motor or add 3hp and sound a bit better.
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      07-13-2013, 05:20 PM   #36
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Is it worth doing all three tunes without any exhaust upgrades? It seems like the answer would be yes! I really do not want to change exhaust for a while but the tunes seem worth the money right away. I only had a tune on my RS4, nothing else was worth the money. So many more options available on the M. I remember researching tunes and exhausts only to learn that it will blow the motor or add 3hp and sound a bit better.
Yes, a lot of our customers have bone stock vehicles.

Is this exhaust issue you mention something on RS4's? This is certainly not the case on M3 thankfully!
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      07-13-2013, 05:27 PM   #37
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Folks,

For those of you with DCT on our beloved M3's, run...do not walk...to BPM Sport to get the DCT software upgrade. I finally found the funds enough to get Mr. Benvo's Stage 1 tune, DCT software, and Servotronic upgrade.

Mike has given me no incentive to post this review, and the comments are my own. Before I purchased the tunes, I was somewhat skeptical. Even with all the praise, I wondered if I would really appreciate the differences and feel my money was well spent.

Now that I have the nearly holy trinity of tunes (still have my Cat's, otherwise Stage 2 tune would fully complete it), I have to say, _THE_ tune to get before anything else is the DCT software upgrade. Why?

1) Cold Start transmission bucking is all but gone
2) Downshifts in D-modes are now silky smooth
3) Downshifts in S-modes are SO much less "lungy". It doesn't feel like you are letting go of the brakes to rev match nearly as bad as before.
4) Upshifts under WOT in modes 4-6 are firm but also somehow not as jolting as before. The car leaps forward now.

and finally, this one put a permanent smile on my soul...

5) Launch Control at 3500 RPM, goes from Zero to Holy Sh!% with little-to-no wheel spin, Leaping forward with every gear with a chirp of the tires. I NEVER used to use it, because frankly...it sucked. The car does NOT creep forward anymore, it wont eat your tires like before, and you can be sure that it is a feature that you will want to use now.

I know BPM Sport needs NO additional publicity, but after coming back from my test drive, I just HAD to share the giddy smile and feeling I have for my car.

I loved it before, but now, my wife and child will be jealous of the praise I am going to continually give it moving forward.

GREAT Job Mr. Benvo, and I look forward to what you come up with next.

P.S. I am glad the car didn't come this way from the factory. This way I can truly appreciate the mod for what it is.
Mike just flashed the DCT on my car this afternoon. I've only had about an hour driving the car, on a variety of roads, but I can tell you that the OP's review is *spot on*.

I typically drive in S4 most of the time, even around the city, and before the tune I had all sorts of issues with lurching gear changes, especially 1st and 2nd gear downshifts and pulling away from a standstill.

With Mike's tune it's almost like the car is psychic. The amount it blips the throttle seems to vary perfectly according to current RPM, throttle input, whether you're braking into a corner. (The OEM software just seemed to blip harder according to what shift mode you were in.)

The net result it that if you're driving fairly sedately you get silky smooth downshifts, when you downshift under hard braking you get a faster rev match with no jerkiness, and when you stand on the throttle you get seriously punchy upshifts.

I'm really looking forward to putting some more miles in on this on some of my favorite local roads over the next week or two!

...and by the way, Mike's "Swervotronic" update is equally awesome. Sport mode rolls off the servo assist pretty rapidly as the speed gets above about 15pmh. You can easily maneuver at low speed, but as soon as you 're moving you feel much more connected to the road. Almost reminds me of karting (but not *quite* so heavy! ;-)
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      07-13-2013, 05:33 PM   #38
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Great review, I'm sold. Now who do I give my money to!!!!
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Yes, a lot of our customers have bone stock vehicles.

Is this exhaust issue you mention something on RS4's? This is certainly not the case on M3 thankfully!
There are a few issues that are inherent to the RS4: one being carbon buildup, i saw this first hand on mine.. it costs around 1-1.5k to clean out. second is that the factory exhaust is a very good one but is as usual restrictive. it is a 2.5'' stainless and the only upgrade with a few extra hp gains is a 3'' but you also need the tune from same comp.. The engineering is solid but now you get into a debate about the tune and its long term effects on the car. There were no servotunes and since it was manual obvi no tranny only tune. It surely could have used help with the gears. First to second was ridiculous for daily driving. I dont miss it. I should get my M by aug. and will be in touch. thx all
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There are a few issues that are inherent to the RS4: one being carbon buildup, i saw this first hand on mine.. it costs around 1-1.5k to clean out. second is that the factory exhaust is a very good one but is as usual restrictive. it is a 2.5'' stainless and the only upgrade with a few extra hp gains is a 3'' but you also need the tune from same comp.. The engineering is solid but now you get into a debate about the tune and its long term effects on the car. There were no servotunes and since it was manual obvi no tranny only tune. It surely could have used help with the gears. First to second was ridiculous for daily driving. I dont miss it. I should get my M by aug. and will be in touch. thx all
There are a few BMW's that are known to have serious carbon buildup issues (for secondary air injection) - mainly the E39 M5 and some E66 745i's.

We hope to make you another happy customer once the M arrives
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Mike just flashed the DCT on my car this afternoon. I've only had about an hour driving the car, on a variety of roads, but I can tell you that the OP's review is *spot on*.

I typically drive in S4 most of the time, even around the city, and before the tune I had all sorts of issues with lurching gear changes, especially 1st and 2nd gear downshifts and pulling away from a standstill.

With Mike's tune it's almost like the car is psychic. The amount it blips the throttle seems to vary perfectly according to current RPM, throttle input, whether you're braking into a corner. (The OEM software just seemed to blip harder according to what shift mode you were in.)

The net result it that if you're driving fairly sedately you get silky smooth downshifts, when you downshift under hard braking you get a faster rev match with no jerkiness, and when you stand on the throttle you get seriously punchy upshifts.

I'm really looking forward to putting some more miles in on this on some of my favorite local roads over the next week or two!

...and by the way, Mike's "Swervotronic" update is equally awesome. Sport mode rolls off the servo assist pretty rapidly as the speed gets above about 15pmh. You can easily maneuver at low speed, but as soon as you 're moving you feel much more connected to the road. Almost reminds me of karting (but not *quite* so heavy! ;-)
Same here...100 % agreed,and perfect description
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Does this dct tune work with SC'd cars as well?

I like what I'm hearing about this.
Doesn't ESS has their own DCT update? I thought people who has ES SC had their DCT software updated when they send their DME for tuning?
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I like what I'm hearing about this.
Yes it does, there are supercharger owners in both US and Germany that have the DCT software flash from us.
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Mike, If I were to get this tune first and purchase test pipes, an intake, and a catback later, would the initial purchase price cover the cost of Stage 2? Would there be a cost to reflash? Trying to determine if I should get the hardware first or the tune first. Would much rather have the tune first if it financially makes sense but don't want to pay twice if not necessary.
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