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      03-24-2020, 08:18 AM   #1
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18/15 spacers with stock zcp wheels and tires

Was about to place an order for 15/12 spacer for my e92 m3 competition package with stock zcp wheels and tires but I'm having second thoughts and I'm considering 18/15. Does anyone has the same setup with 18/15, any rubbing, do the tire/wheel stick out past the fender, pics would be great.

I know tire size make a difference but what tires would I be safe with 18/15 spacers. I'm all stock and have no plans on lowering my car, might go a bit wider in the future but not sure about that yet.

I spent a few hours last night searching but the pictures angles weren't that great so i can't tell if they past the fenders or if they do look good.

Is there any other issue by going with wider spacers?

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      03-24-2020, 10:31 AM   #2
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ZCP with 15/12 and 255/35/19F 275/35/19R have a bit of fender rub up front when turning sharply. The rears will also rub lightly when the car is heavily loaded and you hit a bump.

I would not use 18/15 without adjusting my tire sizes. Perhaps 245/30/19F and 265/30/19F would allow you to use the 18/15 combo.

Due to the slight rubbing that I have, I will be going with 255/30/19F and 275/30/19R when I replace my tires.

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      03-24-2020, 10:39 AM   #3
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I had rub on my 219m 265/40/18 rears using the 15mm spacer, i suspect the 18 with the zcp sizes would be even worse.

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      03-24-2020, 11:06 AM   #4
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ZCP with 15/12 and 255/35/19F 275/35/19R have a bit of fender rub up front when turning sharply. The rears will also rub lightly when the car is heavily loaded and you hit a bump.

I would not use 18/15 without adjusting my tire sizes. Perhaps 245/30/19F and 265/30/19F would allow you to use the 18/15 combo.

Due to the slight rubbing that I have, I will be going with 255/30/19F and 275/30/19R when I replace my tires.

Cheers,
Sorry to thread jack. Quick question, what suspension are you on? Is it lowered at all? I'm running same size spacers and same size tires and have not noticed rubbing yet. Maybe I should double check, only been running this setup for a few months. Thanks.
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ZCP with 15/12 and 255/35/19F 275/35/19R have a bit of fender rub up front when turning sharply. The rears will also rub lightly when the car is heavily loaded and you hit a bump.

I would not use 18/15 without adjusting my tire sizes. Perhaps 245/30/19F and 265/30/19F would allow you to use the 18/15 combo.

Due to the slight rubbing that I have, I will be going with 255/30/19F and 275/30/19R when I replace my tires.

Cheers,
Sorry to thread jack. Quick question, what suspension are you on? Is it lowered at all? I'm running same size spacers and same size tires and have not noticed rubbing yet. Maybe I should double check, only been running this setup for a few months. Thanks.
I'm running 15MM all around with the 219M. B&G lowering springs with Bilstein B8 struts. Absolutely no rubbing, but I noticed my setup keeps pretty close to the OEM rake angle.

So 18MM in the back with 19 inch wheels will probably rub.
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Sorry to thread jack. Quick question, what suspension are you on? Is it lowered at all? I'm running same size spacers and same size tires and have not noticed rubbing yet. Maybe I should double check, only been running this setup for a few months. Thanks.
Stock ZCP suspension.

I am running Michelin PS4S. The rubbing is very minor on the fender liners in the front. The rear rubbing is very abnormal - I only get it if I load the car up with 4 people and hit a large dip/bump. If I set the EDC to stiff, it does not rub in the rear.

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I have 15mm f and 12 r with 359 wheel no rub lower on eibach pro kit tires pss 245 f 265 r
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I have 15mm f and 12 r with 359 wheel no rub lower on eibach pro kit tires pss 245 f 265 r
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You can see just a little rub on the fender liner.
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Had spacers on previous motor, E60 550i. Looked cool but felt like a crab, in a bad way. Every 2nd M3 have spacers and think it looks the business, but haven't got around doing it cause fear the crab.
You guys running with spacers, you feel much that the geometry is changed?
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Stock ZCP suspension.

I am running Michelin PS4S. The rubbing is very minor on the fender liners in the front. The rear rubbing is very abnormal - I only get it if I load the car up with 4 people and hit a large dip/bump. If I set the EDC to stiff, it does not rub in the rear.

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Do you know if the ps2 tires are overall smaller than ps4s, trying to figure out if I would get any rub with my stock tires.
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Stock ZCP suspension.

I am running Michelin PS4S. The rubbing is very minor on the fender liners in the front. The rear rubbing is very abnormal - I only get it if I load the car up with 4 people and hit a large dip/bump. If I set the EDC to stiff, it does not rub in the rear.

Cheers,
Do you know if the ps2 tires are overall smaller than ps4s, trying to figure out if I would get any rub with my stock tires.
No idea.
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I was able to get away with wider spacers with Conti DWS's. When I switched to Michelin PS A/S, they rubbed like heck. Spacer size also depends on the tire.
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      03-28-2020, 09:39 AM   #14
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Running 20mm in the front and lowered on H&R sports. Have never noticed any rubbing.
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When I was on stock zcp suspension: 15mm front, 12.5mm rear ecs tuning spacers. stock tire size (245 35 19 / 265 35 19 Michelin ps4s). That 18/15 setup might poke/rub on front fender liner
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      04-02-2020, 01:36 AM   #16
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+1 to 15/12 f/r on zcp rims with stock 245/265 tire sizes. MPSS tires. Flush, wouldn't want any more aggressive
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I have 18mm front, 12mm rear. I think its perfect. No rubbing. Stock tire sizes. Lowered on KW H.A.S. sleeve kit. To me, it looks better than 15mm in front.
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18F/15R, 245/35 & 265/35, lowered on H&R Race with very little rubbing in the rear. I doubt you'll have any issues at stock height.
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Hi, guys! Nice looking of all cars with spacers.

Does the spacer make some difference in dynamic behavior of the car, or some disadvantage at the ride?
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Hi, guys! Nice looking of all cars with spacers.

Does the spacer make some difference in dynamic behavior of the car, or some disadvantage at the ride?
The only disadvantage is that spacers may cause vibrations at highway speeds if not installed on clean hubs and wheels. Other than that they're mostly (with a few exceptions) for aesthetics.

I think my car became a little more planted in hard cornering but it's purely anecdotal on my part.
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