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      12-02-2020, 08:07 PM   #441
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And a freaking manual!!!!!!!
Is the G42 available in a manual (stateside)?
With near 100% certainty, there will be no manual transmissions anywhere.

The G87 will be available with a 6MT.
Sorry yes, only the G87. Looking forward to seeing that car. Basically a newer/better/faster version of the Supra, but available with a manual.
Perfect

The Zupra is absolutely horrific in the looks department
Supra looks great in person. Much better than a regular 2 series, although not as nice as the M2.

Like most Lexus/Toyota sports models (GSF, RCF, LC, Supra) the car doesn't photograph well. New IS350 also looks phenomenal.

I think the new BMW design language is similar to Lexus/Toyota in that they'll look much better in person.
I saw a Blue one today not bad at all up on the transport truck

It's got a typical Lexus Toyota odd Predator vibe going on

Snap-crackle-pop tune is sure to get you pulled over

I'm not sure what to make of it but it goes like hell
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The headlights are going to kill the look of this car.
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The headlights are going to kill the look of this car.
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Please don't have the ugly taillights from the leaks.
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I'm honestly really surprised those leaks are the next 2er. I thought it was some non-North America econo-model. It looks like it was designed in like 2005. The taillights are essentially the same shape as the e90 lol.
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Have to see it in person, but its not looking good. I'm honestly disappointed with BMW's new generation cars this year. SUV's improved a lot, though.
Makes sense. SUV sales are obviously up so they don't rock the boat with those. Refine, refine, refine.

Sedan/coupe sales dropping so let's mix it up, take more risks to compensate.
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Too early to tell, but looks like the corona ring headlights are dead. None on the M5 LCI, none on this. So sad.
Not sure about the lower front bumper lines. Just like all recent releases, very busy. Please no fake intakes.

As far as the super wide but not long grills, anything is better than the G8x grills.
Any historical element at BMW is dead. New design chief at BMW has been quoted saying he doesn't care about historical elements, specifically the Hoff kink.
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Too early to tell, but looks like the corona ring headlights are dead. None on the M5 LCI, none on this. So sad.
Not sure about the lower front bumper lines. Just like all recent releases, very busy. Please no fake intakes.

As far as the super wide but not long grills, anything is better than the G8x grills.
Any historical element at BMW is dead. New design chief at BMW has been quoted saying he doesn't care about historical elements, specifically the Hoff kink.
Do you have a link to this "quote" from him?

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I believe it was this article

https://www.driving.co.uk/news/inter...ase-everybody/
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People hated the taillights of the current 2er when it came out too. The new ones are worse imo, but they're not terrible. Maybe prolonged exposure to the new 4er has destroyed our eyes...
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Makes sense. SUV sales are obviously up so they don't rock the boat with those. Refine, refine, refine.

Sedan/coupe sales dropping so let's mix it up, take more risks to compensate.
Did you see the thread on the LCI X7 with the split headlights?
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Makes sense. SUV sales are obviously up so they don't rock the boat with those. Refine, refine, refine.

Sedan/coupe sales dropping so let's mix it up, take more risks to compensate.
Did you see the thread on the LCI X7 with the split headlights?
LOL someone forgot to knock on wood.

I actually did see those and I'm not crucifying it just yet. I'll wait to see one in person for my final thoughts.
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Bad design!
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No giant fuck-off grilles?
Must be fake!
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Have to see it in person, but its not looking good. I'm honestly disappointed with BMW's new generation cars this year. SUV's improved a lot, though.
Makes sense. SUV sales are obviously up so they don't rock the boat with those. Refine, refine, refine.

Sedan/coupe sales dropping so let's mix it up, take more risks to compensate.
Umm...take more risks you say....
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Have to see it in person, but its not looking good. I'm honestly disappointed with BMW's new generation cars this year. SUV's improved a lot, though.
Makes sense. SUV sales are obviously up so they don't rock the boat with those. Refine, refine, refine.

Sedan/coupe sales dropping so let's mix it up, take more risks to compensate.
Umm...take more risks you say....
At least use an actual picture and not a rendered guess that's now months old and inaccurate
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Have to see it in person, but its not looking good. I'm honestly disappointed with BMW's new generation cars this year. SUV's improved a lot, though.
Makes sense. SUV sales are obviously up so they don't rock the boat with those. Refine, refine, refine.

Sedan/coupe sales dropping so let's mix it up, take more risks to compensate.
Umm...take more risks you say....
At least use an actual picture and not a rendered guess that's now months old and inaccurate
Lol. Ok bro. It's called a joke.
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Great - inline, RWD, straight 6... perfect for precision driving . BMW PLEASE stay away from hideous exaggerated 4 series / Q7 grill design & avoid weird tail lights, ok. Stick to analogue dials and let the wheel arches bulge !!
I'd actually prefer the digital gauges but I agree with the rest!
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