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Just purchased KW Clubsport 2-way and would like to get some input on what alignment specs (camber and toe) I should be running. I'm doing about 8-10 track days this year but would like something little conservative since I do take the car out sometimes on a nice evening. The car is also driven to the track on re71rs 275/35/18 on a 18x10 et25 apex sm10.
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I don't think so unless you're doing 1000 miles each way. Toe is what will eat the tires, not camber.
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OP not aggressive if you drive to the track only. I also drive probably 3000 miles on the street with not much issues thus far. Just rotate and potentially flip tire when needed.
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Also don't overlook the importance of ride heights. 1/4" negative rake is a good starting point. |
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So, the 1/4" rake is measured from the difference between the front and rear jack point. This is Bimmerworlds suggested method for measuring rake on the E9X chassis.
With that being said the front and rear ground to fender measurements for our car are as follows: Front: 635mm Rear: 599mm Ground to fender are somewhat misleading, as these will change depending on the diameter of tire you are running. The above numbers are with the car running 275/35R18 all around. If for example you were running 275/40R18, these ride height numbers would be higher, but rake would still remain the same. Thus, centre of wheel to fender is a better method as it ignores differences in overall tire diameter. Hope that helps. Last edited by tsk94; 06-29-2019 at 12:40 PM.. Reason: Mixed up front and rear numbers.. |
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So I was only able to get a maximum front camber of -2.3 from the plates on the kw club sports 2way. Anyone that have these and was able to get more out of it?
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That rear ride height of 599mm must tuck the rear tires in the arches a lot? I thought my car was low |
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My main point was not to over look the importance of proper ride height settings for track use, they are just as important as the rest of the alignment. |
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Also interested to see you guys are able to achieve -3 or more camber, my plates are maxed out on one side and the other has maybe a hairs worth, but am only at -2.7
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Depends what plates you are running. When I ran Ground Control street plates, my max was just about what you are seeing. I'm running Vorschlag now with aftermarket suspension and can get a bit over 4 degrees negative on both sides (which is too much for street tires). I run -3.5 degrees on track with street tires.
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I'm at -2.8 front with quite a bit more adjustment left on kw clubsports. What is your ride height like up front?
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Hey guys sorry to revive a semi-dead thread but can anyone provide some pictures of the camber plates once installed on the car? I just installed my KW CS this past weekend and can only seem to get around 2.5* out of the front fully maxed out. I dropped the strut and had the plates pushed in as far as they'd go but still nothing. My previous setup was the KW HAS with GC Streets and was able to get around 3.5* when maxed out.
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