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She probably feels entitled and self righteous because she is part of the furniture. People like that have the grandiose attitude of believing they know what is best for the company. Thinking they know it inside out. When such behaviour goes unchallenged it becomes a habit. She has got away with gossip for so long and creating drama or reporting back to management is probably how she survives. Either to get by or out of fear of losing her job. Whatever has happened has contributed to an unhealthy work culture and possibly one you don't agree with. HR usually refer to it as "interpersonal differences."
So what can you do? If she has no logic or concept of time... she probably lacks respect for boundaries too. These can be tricky people to deal with but it is about pushing back and keeping her from violating your boundaries: "I am working on this at the moment when I have time I will come on to that." It is about staying in adult mode and being assertive. Stick to the facts. Don't criticise or gasp or rebel... she will try and press your buttons more. Stick to factual responses such as: "Okay I have a window tomorrow I will look at it then." No accusation in that statement. No complaining. Who knows she might be feeling less rewarded for having to teach you things. It can be frustrating when someone is above your pay grade and you have to do that. Sometimes jealousy even gets the better of some. So you know the political climate there. What do you? Here are some ideas: https://www.forbes.com/sites/lizryan...fice-politics/ She can put her music on and it may or may not annoy you. You need to find your own way of switching off to her. Different break times might help in the short term but a desk lunch is never advised. Have a change of scenery if there is somewhere else to have lunch - not your car. Lastly, here are some more ideas: https://www.askamanager.org/2017/08/...npleasant.html |
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Policies and procedures only come into play here in the event that it works to the advantage of the company to terminate someone. We have safety directors that blatantly go against company policy for safety standards, we have a 5S/Kaizen "Champion" that straight up refuses to do his job, etc. Nothing is ever done about any of this. The biggest complaint from all employees is that there is no accountability held for anyone in any position, unless they don't like you and want to get rid of you. As for job descriptions/duties, they refuse to give them; in verbal or written form. The reason behind this is so that they can ask anyone to do anything without the luxury of being able to say, "That's not part of my job or in my job description." This grants said employer to to not set clear guide lines or define any one specific job, i.e. my working in engineering suddenly being thrust into a logistics position. Side note: Said employees previous back up was the HR girl. The reason for me being asked to take of this responsibility is simply due to the HR girl no longer wanting to do it because it's a pain in the ass. I am not a fan of this company taking advantage of me, however; there is nowhere else in this shitty little town for me to make what I am making currently. Without a degree, I am very fortunate to be making what I am making. I do plan to move to an area where there are better employment opportunities but I'm about 2 years away from being able to put this plan in motion. I have applied for a different position with this company which will eliminate most of this headache if I am chosen. In fact, it will put me in a management role. My second interview is next Tuesday. The only issue with this is that the plant manager, who wants me in this position has resigned and is leaving the company, next Friday. Quote:
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I will check the links out you provided later on and report back. Thank you for your input, helps me feel like what I'm doing now is the right thing. Not to sound rude, but I've worked professionally for almost 20 years now. This is not my first hostile work environment or dealing with people. I was an area manager for 6 years for a territory that covered half of this state. This thread was created as a way for me to vent and to get ideas of how others may handle or may have handled similar situations. |
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I love when I go to a new office and someone says that, because it automatically lets me know they are the most useless person there.
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Couldn't agree more. We all have to deal with toxic people in life but these times should be short-lived. If they persist change should made.
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i think it may be time to consult with an employment lawyer Not_Judy
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Not necessarily because your co-worker is a shithead, but because of the work that is expected of you in her absence. The second you start dropping hints about speaking to attorney regarding Dept of Labor regulations and overtime, etc. I'm sure management will solve this issue real quick: https://www.dol.gov/whd/overtime_pay.htm |
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The behavior being demonstrated by, not only the employee I share an office with, but others as well is due to comment I made prior of no one being held accountable for their actions. From a chat I had with the exiting plant manager last week, he stated that his is an impossible position. He is unable to terminate employment without going through proper channels, thus making it almost impossible to get rid of problem employees unless they severely fail to comply with policy or procedure i.e. fighting, guns, clear visibility of inebriation, etc. Also to paint a clearer picture, the employee whom I share an office with reports directly to the production manager, who in essence runs the facility, the plant manager is nothing more than a figure head; they also have about a 4-5 year shelf life. The production manager has been here for 20+ years and "babies" the employee in topic. Further more, the production manager is not an employee of this facility but works for "corporate" which means no one here is able to touch him; his supervisor is in another state. Seems that this company has built an impossible scenario from top to bottom. |
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I'm not too knowledgeable in how all this stuff would work out, but given (apparently) that you can't even be asked some very basic and unhurtful questions during an interview
them not giving you explicit job duties and coverage sounds sketchy, not to mention the whole gossip between HR and the person you practically filed a complaint against. i'm really unsure on how you could work it out within the office tbh, getting a lawyer could help you (on the simple basis that if they straight up let you go - you can cause more trouble if you're stubborn like me). in turkland yeah you'd be SOL but some countries still have some form of justice... |
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Toxic is the only description for these individuals. Sadly they outnumber those of us who are genuine people. I've come to realize the only way to deal with them is let them feel like they are winning. Any attempt to anything else will only cause conflict. I just allow them to think they have it all figured out and move on about my business. I've noticed that most of these types of individuals "friends" aren't really their friends, they just tend to be more kind than people like me. I have a hard time not calling people out on their bullshit. I've learned to just recognize it and ignore it, but still hard not to call them out on it. |
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