Dealership wants to replace my engine with 1700 miles on the car. :( (kinda long)

knifegun · 12-14-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

knifegun any news about your car ?

Yes. PM for details. I don't have any information whether the issue is a problem or "normal" but let's just say I am waiting for an 09.

09E92M34ME · 12-14-2008, 08:55 PM

bummer. i feel for you after spending that much money on a car and then something out of your control kind of takes away from it. I guess the best you can do is enjoy the car and know that you got a fresh motor. It will hurt the resale.

farbarg · 12-14-2008, 10:57 PM

Did someone say he something about a fresh motor? Maybe I missed something, but I thought he was simply getting an 09.

But may kg's dealer karma touch all of us.

doba_s · 12-16-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by knifegun

Yes. PM for details. I don't have any information whether the issue is a problem or "normal" but let's just say I am waiting for an 09.

pm'ed you !

M3 vert · 07-24-2010, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by knifegun

For all those people who have the erratic engine ticking sound between 1K and 3K after the engine temperature is above 210 degrees F, take it in to your dealer and have it at least documented that you have this issue. I had the issue and drove the car for 3000 miles. Did not seem to affect anything. But I still have not heard resolution on this issue. Sounds like some dealers are less willing to look into the issue than others. But if this is a real issue, we should get to the bottom of it. And that can only be done by having the BMW of NA FSE hear the sound.

+ 1 I just reached 15,000 Miles and the engine has started making this sound!
They have had the vehicle for 2 days and have not been able to figure out whats causing it?

Please someone provide any updates on this issue, as it seems quite a few of us are affected by it!

deletedelete · 07-24-2010, 07:52 PM

Anybody have an audio file of the clicking sound?

M3 vert · 07-24-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

Anybody have an audio file of the clicking sound?

+ 1 That would really help!!!

Scoobe · 07-24-2010, 10:29 PM

Actually a better tact in this is that you want matching serial numbers with the new engine. Yes the engine compartment gets torn down but thats not really a huge deal (unless the dealer service sux). If you demand a matching serial number with the engine, its a long shot but could lead to BMW sending you a new car. This would also put the car in for easily 30 days, get you past the new car mark. You might want to go straight to BMW Germany with this, and skip the middle man with BMW NA. You'll probably get much farther. The dealer will just sell you're current car as a demo.

JCtx · 07-24-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

Anybody have an audio file of the clicking sound?

Unless your engine makes this sound:

It's probably normal. Even though this engine has hydraulic valve lash adjusters, its valvetrain is quite loud at idle compared to other V8s. The hybrid gear-driven cam drive is 'whiney' too, but it gives the engine 'character', and sounds great IMO. You can tell when a noise is normal. A noise like the video, unrelated to rpm, is something to worry about for sure. Take care.

powertrip · 07-26-2010, 02:03 AM

This thread got me a little concerned, so I shot this quick video of my car. Car stats: '09 M3, 19k miles, DCT, modded from 4k miles to current. What do you guys think? JC, I'd certainly appreciate your input

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Trier Germany · 07-26-2010, 07:16 AM

That things sounds horrible! you might want to talk to the guys who tuned your car Powerchip.

Hoo · 07-26-2010, 07:32 AM

It was one of the 1st e30s delivered and I decided to "chip it" with a Dinan chip. When it blew I was sweating bullets--thinking the warranty was likely voided. I was upfront with the dealer about the chip, and it turned out it wasn't an issue. However, BMW wanted to replace the engine with a rebuilt engine--not sure where they would have gotten a rebuilt engine for a newly released model. In any event, I held out for a new car because I was concerned about resale among other issues and BMW came thru. I did have to wait 3 months for it to be delivered, but had a loaner for the duration. They shipped the engine back to Germany to try to figure out what went wrong--I think they ultimately determined that there were metal fragments in the engine from a defective oil pump.

Slpnbyu · 07-26-2010, 07:33 AM

What you described sounds exactly what my 2004 E46 M3 (outside of the bearing recall period) sounded like when it spun a rod bearing. At the end of the day they replaced the entire motor with a new motor shipped over directly from BMW AG.

Other than the three week wait, it really wasn't that big of a deal. You just need to break-in the new engine following the same procedures and then you will be good-to-go.

Also, be sure that you get an oil change on the new engine at 1,200 miles. If you have the dealership do the oil change make sure they agree to it in advance and they don't inadvertently reset your service indicator on the car based on that unplanned oil change.

powertrip · 07-26-2010, 10:23 AM

Oh my god....please tell me that you're kidding

. Are you really implying that a tune has caused havoc on the bottom-end of my engine? Really?

I have seen a lot of blown engines in my day (probably over 100 different cases) on cars ranging from Evo X's to Porsche 996tt's. I have NEVER, let me say this again....NEVER come across a tune that caused bad main bearings or any type of crankshaft damage. Broken rings? Sure. Shattered connecting rods? A few. Bad main bearings? Please!

My only reason for concern is the fact that my dealership failed to completely fasten my oil filler cap, and the car blew over a quart of oil out before I even knew what happened

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That things sounds horrible! you might want to talk to the guys who tuned your car Powerchip.

jeffnnj · 07-26-2010, 10:35 AM

I think that most of you are jumping the gun. Ask for a new car and see what happens. Their answer might surprise you (in a good way).

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farbarg First Lieutenant 28 Rep 311 Posts Drives: SSII e90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	Did someone say he something about a fresh motor? Maybe I missed something, but I thought he was simply getting an 09. But may kg's dealer karma touch all of us.
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Scoobe Lieutenant 19 Rep 562 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Sedan SSII/SN/DCT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 E90 M3 [10.00]	Actually a better tact in this is that you want matching serial numbers with the new engine. Yes the engine compartment gets torn down but thats not really a huge deal (unless the dealer service sux). If you demand a matching serial number with the engine, its a long shot but could lead to BMW sending you a new car. This would also put the car in for easily 30 days, get you past the new car mark. You might want to go straight to BMW Germany with this, and skip the middle man with BMW NA. You'll probably get much farther. The dealer will just sell you're current car as a demo. __________________ 08 GT500 convertible red package (Black w/ Red stripes) /Ford Racing Exhaust /Cold Air Induction 560hp 10 Porsche Cayenne GTS Black w/ Black Wheels 408hp 11 M3 Silverstone w/ Silver Novillo Leather /Tech /Premium /19" /DCT /Ipod 414hp
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Hoo Private 21 Rep 89 Posts Drives: Interlagos Blue e92 zcp 6mt Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (0)	My e30 M3 engine blew with 1000 miles It was one of the 1st e30s delivered and I decided to "chip it" with a Dinan chip. When it blew I was sweating bullets--thinking the warranty was likely voided. I was upfront with the dealer about the chip, and it turned out it wasn't an issue. However, BMW wanted to replace the engine with a rebuilt engine--not sure where they would have gotten a rebuilt engine for a newly released model. In any event, I held out for a new car because I was concerned about resale among other issues and BMW came thru. I did have to wait 3 months for it to be delivered, but had a loaner for the duration. They shipped the engine back to Germany to try to figure out what went wrong--I think they ultimately determined that there were metal fragments in the engine from a defective oil pump.
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Slpnbyu First Lieutenant 11 Rep 305 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NC iTrader: (2) Garage List 2023 BMW X3MC [0.00] 2020 M2 CS [0.00]	What you described sounds exactly what my 2004 E46 M3 (outside of the bearing recall period) sounded like when it spun a rod bearing. At the end of the day they replaced the entire motor with a new motor shipped over directly from BMW AG. Other than the three week wait, it really wasn't that big of a deal. You just need to break-in the new engine following the same procedures and then you will be good-to-go. Also, be sure that you get an oil change on the new engine at 1,200 miles. If you have the dealership do the oil change make sure they agree to it in advance and they don't inadvertently reset your service indicator on the car based on that unplanned oil change. __________________ /// '23 F97 X3MC : Montego Bay Blue/Black /// /// '20 F87 M2 CS : Misano Blue/Black /// /// '11 E90 M3 : Space Grey/Fox Red /// SOLD /// '04 E46 M3 : Mystic Blue/Black /// SOLD /// '00 E46 323Ci : Titanium Silver/Grey /// SOLD
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