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10-01-2010, 04:52 PM | #1 |
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Getting 8000k D1S bulbs....can they melt wires/sockets/connections?
So I'm getting new light for my -09 e92 m3, and the OE light 4300K is just to yellow looking for me. And I want to get 8000k D1S instead, but I'm just worried that it will run hot and melt my wires, connections or sockets, cause I've heard some bad stories about people swapping lights and play around with different lights.
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10-01-2010, 06:06 PM | #2 |
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You'll be fine.
Standard D1S bulbs regardless of color temperature rating only draws 35W of power after they've been turned on. HIDs require ~35,000V of power to initially turn the bulbs on. After that it draws only 35W(less than a standard halogen bulb) to keep the bulbs on. The heat generated by an HID bulb is also less than that of a halogen bulb. Vehicles that come with factory HIDs already have the electrical wiring and harnesses capable of handling that initial power at bulb start up. Bulb start up is where much of the issues occur because of the amount of power required to ignite the bulbs. Issues of melting the harness only arises if the power exceeds the handling capabilities of the wiring/harness. Some of the HID projector retro fitters out there are running higher wattage 55W HID bulbs, but this requires a larger ballast and stronger harness, but this is another issue altogether. So you'll have no problem running 8000K D1S bulbs. However, just keep in mind the higher in temperature color you go, the less light output you'll get. There's a reason why factory equipped HIDs only come in 4,100K color rating. It gives the greatest amount of lumens(amount of light outputed by the bulbs). |
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10-04-2010, 02:10 PM | #8 |
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But what i dont get is, the 8000k runs a hotter temperature then the OE 4300 light. How can the 8000k not run hotter? The 8000k runs hotter inside the bulb because the color temperature is higher? Mening it must feel the need of more ampere to keep it at high temperature?
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As far as HID bulb design, it is generally all the same regardless of color rating. The light in an HID bulb is actually generated by an arc and not a filament like traditional halogen bulbs. Mercury vapor in combination with xenon gas and some salts when excited with moving electrons will begin to give off visible light. A mixture of different gases is responsible for the different colors. What the gas combination is, I'm not sure. So to answer your question. The bulb does not need to draw more ampere to generate a higher "temperature" color. The mixtures of gas used is responsible for that. |
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10-04-2010, 09:09 PM | #10 |
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what I want to know is what BRAND of HID bulb is the best in terms of OE quality, fitment, and durability?
Phillips Utilion (spelling)?
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10-04-2010, 09:40 PM | #12 |
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so I have a question! does HID have the capability to cause issues to wires around the ECU? I talked to someone today and they were complaining that HID's cause some wires near his ECU to turn black. He said because of this he removed them... I was a bit confused at how this would happen. Anyone with more knowledge can chime in. Thanks
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Osram also makes good HID bulbs too. Both are German made bulbs, so they must be good. |
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btw, i'm talking about aftermarket HID's here, does that make a difference?
running on a ballast |
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Unfortunately, I couldn't do much to my S2K because it was one of the best projectors on the market. I gave it up because it was a shit load of work! There's people out there that know a heck of a lot more than I do! I don't know anything compared to those guys! |
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10-05-2010, 05:58 PM | #21 |
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Thx...any idea where to buy the philips? There are so many venders that look shady so I dont want to end up getting fake crap.
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10-05-2010, 06:03 PM | #22 |
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Buckshizzo, so your saying that the Ballast HID kits that are being sold here do not interfere with the wiring of the ECU at all? I don't know why the local shop here told me that HID kits sold by Camaross caused his wires near ECU to turn black.
I do know that HID's create some heat, and I've driven with them on for about 15 mins. I popped the hood open and touched all the wires that were part of the HID, none of them were hot enough to melt. They were just warm at best. Also from the wiring, nothing is even close to the ECU. From my knowledge, the power from these HID kits are powered on the side directly from the power source and managed by the drivers on the harness. therefore, the ECU wires have nothing to do with this. |
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