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      05-02-2024, 03:14 PM   #23
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How'd you guys wean yourselves off of TC?
drift lessons.
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well that's a wrap for the season, folks. at least for this ride — I'm going down to the P-car school at Barber in December, but the M3 is going into winter cleanup + hibernation.

Good last day at blackhawk. Last time I was here I was stoked to crack 1:28 and get moved up to intermediate. Today, I was running 1:25s, with a 1:24.9 PR. Consistent 1:24s is what they want to move you into the advanced group. I'm no hurry for that, but it's nice to know I'm on pace.

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The yokos are beat to sh*t, so I think I'm going to go to something else for next season. I like the idea of Cup 2s, but also want to learn to drive with less traction first, then add it later. Maybe I'll get some PS4s or something equivalent, not sure. Also have some work to do on the brake system. The stopping power is there, but I've got more pedal travel than I'd like and I'm going to look into an ISTA reset procedure Ximian pointed me to, and possibly get a used master cylinder to swap out the 150k one that's there now. We'll see.

All in all, super happy with how the season's gone and how this 150K mile, 10 owner beater has held up.
I’d consider Hankook RS4s. They wear like iron, are predictable, and aren’t too sticky to serve as a crutch.

I tracked on MP4S and they fell off really quick. Not good track tires. Great street tires.

Also, no reason to buy cup2s for these cars imo. There are tires that are faster, cheaper and wear better.
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drift lessons.
can't tell if you're being facetious or not...
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I’d consider Hankook RS4s. They wear like iron, are predictable, and aren’t too sticky to serve as a crutch.

I tracked on MP4S and they fell off really quick. Not good track tires. Great street tires.

Also, no reason to buy cup2s for these cars imo. There are tires that are faster, cheaper and wear better.
yeah, i ended up with a set of Kumhos. They'll be going on before the next track day.
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yeah, i ended up with a set of Kumhos. They'll be going on before the next track day.
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can't tell if you're being facetious or not...
I am very serious; my biggest fear when I first turned off MDM was not being able to control my car in an oversteer situation or if I were to suddenly snap into oversteer somehow. Drifting teaches you how to handle these situations as you are purposefully inducing them. In other words, it's like taking basic car control classes.

Alternatively, you could rent a skid pad location and practice doing controlled donuts and figure 8s
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I am very serious; my biggest fear when I first turned off MDM was not being able to control my car in an oversteer situation or if I were to suddenly snap into oversteer somehow. Drifting teaches you how to handle these situations as you are purposefully inducing them. In other words, it's like taking basic car control classes.

Alternatively, you could rent a skid pad location and practice doing controlled donuts and figure 8s
yeah, that makes sense. i should do that now before i put new tires on lol
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yeah, that makes sense. i should do that now before i put new tires on lol
That’s a fine approach, too. My local driving school offers a skid pad course in a Vehicle equipped to simulate icy conditions. You spend 90 minutes behind the wheel of someone else’s car and tires to learn to arrest slides over and over until the reaction is imprinted in your brain. You might see if similar is offered locally. They are marketed to teach winter driving skills.

I was on track yesterday for the first time since the class and 6 hours in i was chuckling at just how casual a slide at 85mph heading toward a wall can feel.

Not local to you but this is the idea: https://www.prodrive.net/car-control...driving-course
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When I was younger, my dad's friend ran the Bridgestone Winter Driving School in Steamboat, so I was lucky enough to go to several clinics. That knowledge has been really helpful with car control on track.
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