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      09-23-2020, 06:01 AM   #375
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With the G80/82 series...

The new double claws style digital instrument cluster is

Give me back that classic BMW cluster or give me a true racing style cluster dominated by a tachometer, a speedo with EGT, water temp and oil temp readings on the side

I am quite disappointed with the amount of weight gain but guess there isn't much Markus Flasch's team can do as they are constrained by the inherent footprint of the G20/22 chassis

I am resting my hope on the G87 M2
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Me too . . . I think the G87 M2C will be great, but we MIGHT not like the instrument cluster???

Getting back to those seats . . . I saw a new 21' M235i that just arrived to local BMW dealership and the seats (bottom pic) were very similar to those in the new M3/4 (top pic). This reassures me the G87 M2C will include something very nice, if not identical to the G80/82 seats.

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With the G80/82 series...

The new double claws style digital instrument cluster is

Give me back that classic BMW cluster or give me a true racing style cluster dominated by a tachometer, a speedo with EGT, water temp and oil temp readings on the side

I am quite disappointed with the amount of weight gain but guess there isn't much Markus Flasch's team can do as they are constrained by the inherent footprint of the G20/22 chassis

I am resting my hope on the G87 M2
Karmic

Me too . . . I think the G87 M2C will be great, but we MIGHT not like the instrument cluster???

Getting back to those seats . . . I saw a new 21' M235i that just arrived to local BMW dealership and the seats (bottom pic) were very similar to those in the new M3/4 (top pic). This reassures me the G87 M2C will include something very nice, if not identical to the G80/82 seats.

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      10-18-2020, 04:31 AM   #377
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G42 BMW 2 Series Spied testing at the Nurburgring

A new video has been taken of the G42 at Nurburgring but looking at the exhausts and mirror caps, could it be the performance 35i/40i model?

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A new video has been taken of the G42 at Nurburgring but looking at the exhausts and mirror caps, could it be the performance 35i/40i model?

Yep absolutely Cerium Grey wing mirrors there.

I assume that means this was a B58 I6 in a small(relative to siblings) RWD package.

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Yep absolutely Cerium Grey wing mirrors there.

I assume that means this was a B58 I6 in a small(relative to siblings) RWD package.

Yes 👍🏻
Just imaging the S58 and some ///M parts in the G87 . . . these babies are going to sell like hot-cakes.

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Great that it seems to not have huge kidneys. Hope that it didn’t grow very much.
Scott26 has said the next 2er is going to have the bigger/longer grilles, but not as extreme as the new 4er. I'm hoping it will be like the 3.0 CSL Homage Concept.

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It could be the wrap but it looks longer and taller that the current 2. I'm not sure that's a good thing.
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The subtle but noticeable swollen body lines around the wheel arches on all 4 corners looks to be BEGGING for a box-flare comeback on the next M2.

Really thought BMW would pull the trigger on the G82 in that regard but S.O.L. I guess...


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      10-18-2020, 02:33 PM   #383
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The subtle but noticeable swollen body lines around the wheel arches on all 4 corners looks to be BEGGING for a box-flare comeback on the next M2.
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I love me some fender flare. One of the features BMW just nailed earlier on, e.g., with E46 M3. Just looks awesome!

Unfortunately, I do not see it in the G42 and, thus, doubt it will appear in the G87.

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You can see some fender flare action going on in the front of the car, if this is a 35/45 model, then the G87 should have some nice wide fenders
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Ok so we all know the current gen m235i xdrive sedan has a b48 under the hood. We also have come to be fond of the m2 because of it's size and relative similarities to the original M3. Imagine this. BMW having already designed the g chassis 2 series to be powered by a 4 cylinder mill decides to have BMW M designe an S variant of the B48 which can already derive from its P48 variant in the 4 series DTM cars. Mates it to RWD and a 6 speed manual. This would be a modern day return to the original M3. Not to mention the m235i weighs in at 2600lbs as a sedan with xdrive. A 450 hp m2 weighing in at 2500lbs would have the same power to weight ratio as a 650hp s55 powered M2comp. And for a competition example the new m2 could feature an xdrive system much like the new m3/m4 with available rwd capability. Thoughts anyone?
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. . . Thoughts anyone?
The G87 is getting the S58 engine that is in the G80/82 . . . and I have a hard time believing the G87 will weigh in at anything less than the 3600 pound F87.

I do, however, like your thoughts.

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You can see some fender flare action going on in the front of the car, if this is a 35/45 model, then the G87 should have some nice wide fenders
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We shall see . . . but, to my eye, the G42 looks to have significantly less fender flare than the F87.

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Ok so we all know the current gen m235i xdrive sedan has a b48 under the hood. We also have come to be fond of the m2 because of it's size and relative similarities to the original M3. Imagine this. BMW having already designed the g chassis 2 series to be powered by a 4 cylinder mill decides to have BMW M designe an S variant of the B48 which can already derive from its P48 variant in the 4 series DTM cars. Mates it to RWD and a 6 speed manual. This would be a modern day return to the original M3. Not to mention the m235i weighs in at 2600lbs as a sedan with xdrive. A 450 hp m2 weighing in at 2500lbs would have the same power to weight ratio as a 650hp s55 powered M2comp. And for a competition example the new m2 could feature an xdrive system much like the new m3/m4 with available rwd capability. Thoughts anyone?
Lol the M235ix is 3600 lbs!
And the G42/G87 uses a completely different platform that is perfectly capable of housing an i6.
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I like what I'm seeing. If it drives with similar dynamics to M340i but in a smaller footprint, it's gonna be a winner. Hopefully the line between M-performance and ///M will be blurred more on the G42. I want mine in AWD in 2022 when our M340i lease is up.
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The G87 is getting the S58 engine that is in the G80/82 . . . and I have a hard time believing the G87 will weigh in at anything less than the 3600 pound F87.

I do, however, like your thoughts.

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The M2 originally got the N55, and I've read the M2C was somewhat forced into the S55 due to the N55 no longer being emissions compliant. Is there definitive confirmation the G87 will get the S58 right off the bat? Although chances are good it will initially come with a detuned S58, I don't think it's certain. Later in the lifecycle, however, it's probably a safe bet.
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. . . Is there definitive confirmation the G87 will get the S58 right off the bat? . . .
Yes, with various sources previously cited . . . this is just one.

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The size looks right as does its silhouette. I hope the build quality is better than current gen 2 series coupes. The G87 in RWD, S58 engine, under 3500lbs, with carbon bucket seats will be a winning recipe!!
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If the regular cars are made in Mexico, for sure the M2 will be made in Mexico as well.
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I think the guys working on this know how much EVERYONE hates the 4 series grill and put an extra short opening on the camouflage over this one.
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